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Former NSA director: Iran deal won't hold, the real threats are still coming

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Show Notes

Former NSA Director and US Cyber Command chief Admiral Mike Rogers warns that the Iran ceasefire has resolved none of the underlying threats — missiles, proxies, or the nuclear program — and that Iran's Revolutionary Guard is now more powerful and more aggressive than before the conflict began.

Admiral Rogers, who led both the NSA and US Cyber Command as a four-star Navy admiral before moving to the private sector with Team8 and Aurelius Capital, delivers a sobering assessment: the ceasefire bought time but solved nothing. On Iran's posture, he argues that the war produced the opposite of what the US and Israel hoped; rather than deterring Tehran, it has convinced the Revolutionary Guard to double down. "The takeaway is to be more aggressive," he explains of the IRGC's internal argument. He also flags a new and underappreciated threat: Iran now understands it holds an economic weapon in its ability to disrupt Gulf commercial shipping, and will make that a foundational element of strategy going forward.

On cybersecurity, Rogers breaks from the dominant narrative: while the world obsesses over AI-powered attacks, almost no one is deploying AI defensively. He argues that a determined attacker will eventually get in, and that resilience, not just defense, must become the new standard. He explains why he believes Israel and Silicon Valley are the only two places in the world with the culture, talent, and capital to solve this problem at scale.

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