Summary
Tom Grennan and Matt Willis engage in a candid conversation while playing golf, reflecting on their journeys of sobriety and personal growth. Grennan shares that he has been sober for over a year, discussing how this change has opened his heart and allowed him to connect more deeply with himself and others. He emphasizes the importance of having meaningful conversations on the golf course, describing it as a space for life-saving discussions.
The duo also touches on their experiences in the music industry, with Willis noting the challenges of maintaining sobriety while navigating a world often centered around drinking. They both express how fatherhood has transformed their perspectives, motivating them to be better versions of themselves for their children. Grennan highlights the emotional depth of his upcoming album, which he created with a sense of honesty and vulnerability, hoping it resonates with listeners.
As they continue their game, they share lighthearted banter and personal anecdotes, illustrating the balance between their serious discussions and the joy of friendship. The episode concludes with a sense of camaraderie, as they celebrate their shared experiences and the lessons learned along the way.
Show Notes
Singer-songwriter Tom Grennan spent years believing alcohol and drugs were part of what made him who he was. Walking away from them meant facing a bigger question: who was he without them?
Tom shares the moment he knew he had to change, the work it took to forgive himself, and how becoming a dad gave him a new perspective on the life he wanted to build. Rather than losing his personality, he found himself feeling more alive, more present, and more connected to the people he loves.
He also talks about finding an unexpected outlet in golf, where time with mates has brought release, connection and some of life’s most important conversations. For Tom, recovery has become about more than leaving the past behind. It’s about discovering what makes life worth showing up for.
Tom's new single ‘Wrapped In Gold' is out now
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