Obsessed: The Podcast

How ‘Hacks’ Fulfilled Viewers’ Ultimate Lesbian ‘Fantasy’

Obsessed: The Podcast

Show Notes

Kevin Fallon sits down with Jen Statsky for a deep dive into the final season of Hacks — from the emotional reality of saying goodbye after nearly a decade with the show to the long-planned ending that’s about to leave fans stunned. Jen opens up about crafting the complicated Deborah-Ava relationship, the viral “shipping” discourse, and why the writers never let fan theories dictate the story. She also shares behind-the-scenes details about filming in Paris, the emotional cast moments that made everyone cry, and the hilarious fan-service moments coming in the final episodes — including Jimmy’s unforgettable nude scene and the fake-lesbian-couple scheme that gives viewers the Deborah and Ava dynamic they’ve been obsessing over for years. Plus: Jean Smart’s brilliance, why casting a dramatic actress instead of a real comedian changed everything, Designing Women nostalgia, Emmy-season chaos with Lisa Kudrow’s The Comeback, and why Jen believes great sitcoms should end before they overstay their welcome.

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