
Show Notes
The payments industry is evolving quickly. Open banking, stablecoins and real-time payment networks are creating new ways to move money, but for merchants operating internationally, more options don't always mean less complexity. So what if businesses didn't have to worry about which payment rail their money travels on? And what does it take to build a payments platform that can support different technologies and markets without adding unnecessary friction?Recorded live at Fintech Meetup Europe in Lisbon, Jasmine Chana is joined by Elaine Smith, VP of Partnerships at Volt, to explore the rise of rail-agnostic money movement, the importance of strategic partnerships and what it takes to scale payment infrastructure globally. From payment initiation services and stablecoins to treasury capabilities and emerging open banking use cases, the conversation looks at how Volt is approaching the challenge of connecting different payment systems into a more flexible experience for merchants. With Australia becoming an important market in Volt's expansion plans, Elaine also discusses the opportunities created by payment innovation across different regions and what other markets could learn from Australia's approach. In this episode, they explore: What rail-agnostic money movement means across payment initiation services, stablecoins and treasury Why the payment rail behind a transaction matters to merchants What supporting global merchants across different payment technologies demonstrates about platform scalability The role of strategic partnerships in expanding payment capabilities Why Australia has become an important market for Volt What other countries can learn from Australia's payments ecosystem How commercial variable recurring payments (CVRPs) could create new opportunities for open banking in the UK Which use cases could take pay by bank beyond traditional checkout payments What's still holding back wider adoption of pay by bank What could be next for Volt as its global payments offering continues to develop
The future of payments may not be about finding one rail that does everything. It may be about making different rails work together so businesses can focus on the transaction, not the infrastructure behind it. As merchants expand into new markets and payment technologies continue to evolve, flexibility and connectivity are becoming increasingly important. The challenge for payment providers is to make that complexity manageable, delivering reliable money movement across different systems without forcing businesses to navigate every technical detail themselves. Because ultimately, merchants don't just want more ways to move money. They want payments that work wherever their business takes them. A huge thank you to our sponsors Mastercard, Salesloft, Cyclops & PCN for supporting The Payments Shed Podcast. Disclaimer: Views expressed are those of The Payments Shed Podcast hosts and guests, not their respective employers. Nothing discussed constitutes investment, legal, tax or financial advice.
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