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What if the key to building transformative AI isn't just technical prowess, but divine intelligence? In this compelling conversation, Joshua sits down with Éric Célérier a French technologist and ministry pioneer who's spent decades at the intersection of faith and technology.Eric founded jesus.net, a global cooperation of 130 ministries operating in 40 languages, and is now building Hello Bible, an AI companion designed to help the 95% of Christians who don't read Scripture daily connect personally with God's word. He's also developing an open-source Christian LLM for the entire church to use in Bible translation, education, and ministry applications.Drawing on the stories of Daniel, Joseph, and Bezalel—the first person Scripture says was filled with the Holy Spirit specifically to create with intelligence and artistry—Eric challenges the false choice between divine and artificial intelligence. Rather than opposing AI and the Holy Spirit, Eric invites us to see technology as an opportunity for partnership with God, creating spaces where divine encounters can happen.Eric shares practical insights on starting each day with God, praying for wisdom, and doing things with God rather than just for God. Whether you're a technologist, entrepreneur, or ministry leader, this conversation will inspire you to seek divine intelligence as the foundation for all you build.
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