ADS-B In Mandate, Hawker Stall Test Crash, Erie LSA Wind Shear, and Four More Fatal Accidents
NTSB News Talk – Aviation Accidents, Safety Investigations & Pilot LessonsShow Notes
In Episode 15 of NTSB News Talk, co-hosts Rob Mark and Max Trescott examine a week filled with new legislation and a series of tragic accidents that highlight recurring lessons in aviation safety and human factors. The show opens with the Senate Commerce Committee’s new bipartisan aviation safety bill, which—if passed—would close the ADS-B loophole that allows certain military aircraft to operate without transmitting position data. Rob explains that the legislation was sparked by the midair collision near Reagan National Airport (DCA) involving a military jet and a civilian aircraft, after which the NTSB identified over 15,000 unreported near misses in the Washington, D.C. area. Max notes that while the bill’s text isn’t public yet, reports indicate it would require ADS-B In for aircraft already required to carry ADS-B Out. Rob then recounts the fatal stall-test crash of a Hawker 800 that had just undergone heavy maintenance in Battle Creek, Michigan. The aircraft entered an unrecoverable stall during post-maintenance checks at 15,000 feet, killing all three aboard. Having flown the Hawker himself, Rob explains how rare and risky such stall tests are—especially without an experienced test pilot. Max adds that with two similar Hawker losses in 18 months, new FAA or manufacturer guidance may soon follow. The discussion shifts to Erie, Colorado, where a JMB VL3 Evolution light-sport aircraft crashed during pattern work in extreme, sudden wind shear that tore down wind socks and caught multiple pilots off guard. Witnesses described gusts exceeding 50 knots. Investigators found the ballistic parachute’s activation pin still installed—a fatal oversight. Max explains how the startle effect and loss of fine motor control under stress can make removing such a pin nearly impossible in flight. His advice: Always pull the parachute pin before takeoff. From there, Rob examines the Gulfstream G150 runway overrun at Chicago Executive (PWK), where a new copilot landed long and fast on a wet runway while the speed brakes were never deployed. Despite thrust reversers and hard braking, the jet slid into the EMAS barrier. Fortunately, nobody was injured. Rob and Max use the incident to illustrate how auditory exclusion—the brain’s inability to process sound under stress—can cause pilots to ignore or not even hear a call to “go around.” Max next analyzes the Cirrus SR22 crash near Ruston, Louisiana, in which a private pilot flying an RNAV approach reported autopilot trouble and began hand-flying shortly before losing control. ADS-B data showed large heading deviations and a rapid descent from 1,200 feet AGL. Though weather looked benign, embedded thunderstorms and outflow boundaries were present. The Cirrus parachute was found undeployed. Max discusses how pilots under pressure often fail to pull CAPS when they should, particularly when they feel personally responsible for the problem. The episode closes with a sobering case from Lincoln, Montana, where a recently licensed private pilot attempted a night landing in mountainous terrain at an airport surrounded by peaks up to 8,600 feet. With only a 9% moon, no instrument approach, and minimal terrain clearance, the pilot apparently stalled and spun while maneuvering his Cirrus SR22 near the airport. Rob and Max emphasize how combining night, mountains, and marginal weather can be deadly—and how even experienced pilots should avoid such conditions. Throughout the show, Max and Rob circle back to key human-factor themes: complacency, startle effect, task overload, and decision-making under stress. Their closing message is direct: even experienced aviators must continually train, brief, and mentally rehearse emergencies—because survival often depends less on skill and more on anticipation and preparation. Share this episode with low-time pilots who may not yet recognize how quickly small mistakes can cascade into tragedy.
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A Boeing 767 lands more than 3,700 feet down a Miami runway and overruns the pavement, killing five people on the ground. A Cirrus SR22 crashes during a second go-around, killing all five aboard. And a Cessna 421 loses both engines after being fueled with Jet A instead of avgas. In Episode 41 of NTSB News Talk, aviation safety experts Max Trescott and Rob Mark examine the critical decisions behind these accidents and the lessons pilots can take away. The newly released Miami Boeing 767 preliminary report raises serious questions about tailwinds, unstable approaches, airspeed warnings, and a go-around attempted far too late. A new NTSB final report on a fatal Cirrus SR22 crash at Kill Devil Hills reveals striking flight-data evidence of excessive pitch and an aerodynamic stall. The hosts also discuss Diamond DA40 crashed in mountainous terrain near Eldorado Springs, Colorado, a deadly Piper JetProp icing encounter over Wisconsin, a Gulfstream air ambulance crash following reported electrical problems, a Beech Bonanza fuel-starvation accident involving a congressman, a fatal nighttime Piper crash, and a midair collision between gliders. From fuel management and emergency procedures to stall prevention and go-around proficiency, this episode highlights a fundamental truth: even experienced pilots cannot afford to skip the basics.
Episode 40 examines a wide range of recent accidents before focusing on a troubling pattern: pilots flying with impairing OTC medications or drugs in their systems. Max Trescott and Rob Mark begin with a fatal nighttime crash of C-GPTX, a Cessna 172 in Saskatchewan and the runway overrun of Eclipse 500 N816KD at Auburn, California. They also discuss Beech Travel Air N529RB, which was flown in repeated low-level circles about 100 feet above the Pacific before crashing into the ocean, raising the possibility of an intentional act. Preliminary reports include Piper Seneca N212ML, lost near the Bahamas in convective weather; C-IFBY, a Para-Ski VX powered parachute carrying three people even though its U.S. operation did not qualify under Part 103; and Lake Amphibian N6185V, which apparently ran out of fuel just miles from Ithaca. Final reports include a fatal VFR-into-IMC accident involving N9626K, a Piper PA-28 and the crash of Ameriflight Beech C99 N130GP after a partial engine-power loss. The episode closes with four fatal-accident reports involving the active ingredients in Benadryl and Zyrtec, or cyclobenzaprine, cannabis, or morphine. The takeaway is simple: “over the counter” does not mean “safe to fly,” and pilots need to understand the FAA’s medication waiting-period guidance. Max also explains why medication effects can undermine a pilot’s own self-assessment.
New information from the NTSB is filling in the final seconds of the Amazon Prime Air Boeing 767 crash in Miami. The agency’s summary of the cockpit voice recorder shows repeated concerns about excessive speed, followed by touchdown and then, 16 seconds later, a call for a go-around. The brakes were released at a ground speed of 120 knots and go-around thrust was applied before the attempt was abandoned. Recorded data showed no indication that the speed brakes or thrust reversers were deployed. Max Trescott also revisits his ADS-B analysis of Flight 7598 and explains why he believes an automation surprise involving the Boeing 767’s vertical modes may have contributed to the airplane becoming high and fast. Then Max and Rob Mark examine the fatal KNBC AS350B2 helicopter crash in Los Angeles, including ADS-B evidence and reports of a possible low-rotor-RPM warning. Other accidents include N734ZK, a Cessna 172N crash at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport, N9485P, a fatal Piper Comanche accident at a short Alaska runway, N93R, a Lockheed 12A that took off with full flaps, a fuel-exhaustion accident involving N413AW, a Pipistrel Alpha, and N188PC, a Pilatus PC-12 loss of control in IMC. The episode closes with a story from the NASA ASRS Callback newsletter about a Cirrus pilot’s successful recovery from a dangerous distraction in instrument conditions.
An Amazon Prime Air Boeing 767 crashes after overrunning Runway 30 at Miami International Airport—and ADS-B data contains an important clue about how the approach became unstable. In this episode, we analyze the September 6 crash of Prime Air Flight 7598, operated by 21 Air with Boeing 767 N1997A. The flight from San Juan initially followed an almost perfect three-degree approach toward Miami. But approximately five miles from the runway, the aircraft unexpectedly leveled near 1,600 feet. The ADS-B data shows that 1,600 feet had been entered as the selected altitude much earlier in the descent. That raises the possibility of an automation surprise, although another possibility is that the crew leveled inadvertently after disconnecting the autopilot to hand-fly. The crew then attempted to recover using a descent approaching twice the normal glide angle. The 767 crossed the displaced threshold around 175 knots, apparently touched down near 160 knots, and was still traveling about 110 knots when it left the runway. We also examine a fatal PC-12 spatial-disorientation accident, new evidence of helicopter wake turbulence in a Cessna 150 collision, and a troubling student-pilot night CFIT accident involving a CFI cross-country endorsement. FAA No Go Over the Counter Medications List
In Episode 37 of NTSB News Talk, Max Trescott and Rob Mark examine new evidence from the fatal Learjet 55 air ambulance crash in Philadelphia and several other accidents with important lessons for pilots. Brought to you by AVEMCO aircraft insurance. Support Rob and Max by making a donation at Patreon.com The Learjet 55 departed Northeast Philadelphia Airport at night into a roughly 400-foot overcast. Newly released NTSB docket material shows the aircraft initially beginning its assigned right turn before slowly rolling left. The exceptionally gradual roll raises the possibility of somatogyral illusion—a form of spatial disorientation in which the inner ear may fail to detect slow rotational movement. Investigators also examined somatogravic illusion, cockpit workload, pitch trim, and the captain’s previous training history. Both engines appeared to be producing takeoff power, making an engine failure less likely. Max and Rob also discuss two wrong-runway landings near Chicago that illustrate continuation bias and task saturation. Other accidents include a Cirrus Vision Jet striking a pipe across a closed portion of a runway at Driggs, Idaho; a fatal Cessna 150 collision with a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter; N1850N a Beechcraft Duchess accident during simulated single-engine training; and a photographer fatally struck by the wing of glider N8217W. Also, two wrong-runway landings near Chicago, N772MR (Envoy 3936) and N1128M Learjet 60. Those final incidents highlight a recurring human-factors problem: once pilots commit mentally to a plan, contradictory evidence can become surprisingly difficult to recognize.