ESPN's Ryan McGee & Shutdown Fullcast's Spencer Hall on NC State, Belichick, SEC strength, and more | Lightning Round | 09.24

Duke hammers Tennessee while UNC drops an exhibition to Indiana, comparing Jon Scheyer’s Year 5 continuity to Michael Malone’s reset, Canes in Edmonton as their Canadian road trip continues, and 'No Quarter Hour'. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - We'll be at the NC State Fair on Thursday 05:00 - Televised Exhibition Hot Takes: Duke Blows Out Tennessee, UNC Drops Scrimmage to Indiana 17:00 - Program Expectations: Jon Scheyer’s Year 5 Title Window vs. Michael Malone’s UNC Reset 25:00 - OG Gambling Syndicate 28:00 - Housekeeping 32:30 - Canes in Canada: Maniscalco on Bouncing Back in Vancouver & Injury Roster Depth 1:06:00 - Lightning Round: Dylan Larkin Trade Demands, Matt Rhule Rants, & NBA Season Tipoff 1:26:00 - No Quarter Hour: How Does ECU Recover After an OT Heartbreaker to UAB? 1:40:00 - Hey Joe: More Chuck Amato Remembrances & Listener Voicemails Exhibition basketball is officially on TV, which means the hot takes are coming in fast and heavy across the Triangle! Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio kick off the show by reacting to Duke's dominant blowout exhibition win over Tennessee and UNC's loss to Indiana. Back when these games were "secret scrimmages," coaches could control the media narrative for maximum optimism. Now that fans can watch every minute, the temptation to overreact is at an all-time high. Ovies argues the real conversation isn't about exhibition box scores, but the fundamental gap in program trajectory: Jon Scheyer enters Year 5 at Duke with rare roster continuity and a legitimate national championship window, whereas Michael Malone is managing a complete structural reset at UNC. You simply cannot compare where these two programs sit today — though that dynamic could shift drastically by next season. Switching to the ice, the Carolina Hurricanes bounced back from their loss to Calgary by putting on a dominant performance against Vancouver. Hurricanes Hockey Network play-by-play voice Mike Maniscalco joins from Edmonton to discuss how Rod Brind'Amour's process continues to generate wins while key veterans recover from injuries. Plus, how are the young guys fitting in? In the Lightning Round, the guys touch on Dylan Larkin demanding a trade out of Detroit, Nebraska head coach Matt Rhule setting Giglio off once again, and the return of the NBA regular season. Plus, James Giglio joins for the No Quarter Hour to analyze how ECU football picks itself up after an excruciating overtime loss to UAB, and the guys take more listener calls honoring the legacy of Chuck Amato in Hey Joe. OG x BreakingT: https://breakingt.com/collections/the-ovies-giglio-collection?rfsn=7630833.c3bd9f7 OG Secret Stash: http://theog.shop/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OGTriangleMedia OG Membership Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1Qpevj6hElebdWc2SSGkWw/join

Remembering former NC State coach Chuck Amato at 80, Dave Canales' growth vs. Dan Quinn, UNC's primetime spot vs. Miami, explaining why the Tar Heels didn't show up in the preseason hoops poll, and navigating Hurricanes injuries. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 05:00 - How Did Chuck Amato Change the Foundation and Expectations of NC State Football? 20:00 - Why Was the Philip Rivers Era a Dopamine Hit Wolfpack Fans Are Still Chasing? 26:30 - OG Sports Phone: Wolfpack Fans Share Their Favorite Memories of Chuck Amato 41:00 - Housekeeping 47:00 - UNC. Miami. Chapel Hill. AT NIGHT! 54:00 - Duke player apologizes 57:00 - Why Was UNC Basketball Left Out of the Preseason AP Top 25 Poll? 1:02:00 - World Series gives us non-traditional 1:12:00 - Ring of Fire 1:20:00 - Jay Z Super Bowl Halftime? 1:25:00 - How Does Dave Canales' Honest Accountability Contrast with Dan Quinn's Game Management? 1:29:00 - How Are the Canes Handling Roster Injuries to Jordan Staal, Taylor Hall, and Mark Jankowski? 1:42:00 - Hey Joe The show opens with Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio paying tribute to former NC State player and head coach Chuck Amato, who passed away at the age of 80. For older fans, Amato arrived in Raleigh with bold bravado, chest-puffing swagger, and a mission to convince Wolfpack nation that NC State could be a major national program. For younger fans, his tenure provided the structural foundation — and the thrilling Philip Rivers dopamine hits — that defined what fans expect from Raleigh today. The guys re-examine his legacy, take calls on the OG Sports Phone, and reflect on why time healed wounds after his 2006 departure. In the Lightning Round, the guys touch on Miami vs. UNC getting a primetime TV spot, analyze why UNC basketball missed the preseason AP Top 25 poll, and discuss the strange energy of a non-traditional World Series lineup. Switching to the NFL, the guys highlight a stark contrast in coaching demeanors: Washington's Dan Quinn looks like he's begging to be fired after another end-of-half disaster on Monday Night Football, while Carolina Panthers head coach Dave Canales continues to win over fans by openly taking accountability for his mistakes after beating the Eagles. Finally, the crew checks in on the Carolina Hurricanes on their Canadian road trip. With Jordan Staal, Taylor Hall, and Mark Jankowski sidelined, Rod Brind'Amour's line combinations are disrupted. While young players get valuable ice time, the guys explain why rushing back veterans (or Seth Jarvis) before the postseason is a mistake. OG x BreakingT: https://breakingt.com/collections/the-ovies-giglio-collection?rfsn=7630833.c3bd9f7 OG Secret Stash: http://theog.shop/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OGTriangleMedia OG Membership Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1Qpevj6hElebdWc2SSGkWw/join

Demetri Ravanos fills in for Giglio as the Panthers beat the Eagles in Philly, dissecting CFP 24-team expansion hypocrisy, local rivalry stakes, Chuck Amato's passing, and NC State Fair fashion. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 03:30 - Panthers Win Another "Must Win" in Philly 07:00 - Overcoming Penalties & Clock Management: Why Bryce Young & Panthers Are Class of NFC South 15:00 - "Average Bryce" Still Pretty Good! 26:00 - NFL Lightning Round: Dumb Redemption Arcs, Chiefs Inevitability, & Harbaugh 41:10 - Housekeeping 46:00 - Wild CFB Saturday & The Great 24-Team CFP Expansion Complaint Cycle 59:00 - All Sports Is Local: Why UNC vs. Duke Matters More Than CFP Formats 1:18:00 - Remembering NC State Legend Chuck Amato, Canes Injury Bug, & State Fair Fashion The show kicks off in the NFL, where the Carolina Panthers continued their momentum by taking down the Philadelphia Eagles. Coming off their open date, the Panthers navigated a chaotic road environment against an Eagles team missing Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley. Despite a historic barrage of flags, a slow offensive start, and late-half clock management issues from Dave Canales, Carolina secured the victory. The guys examine why even a "pedestrian" performance from Bryce Young marks significant growth over last season — and why the Panthers deserve credit for handling business in a wide-open NFC. Switching to college football, a wild Saturday shook up the national rankings and reignited debates surrounding College Football Playoff expansion. The guys hit back at national media members claiming a 24-team field destroys regular-season stakes, pointing out how pundits recycled the exact same complaints for the 4-team and 12-team formats. Most importantly, Ovies and Ravanos highlight that "all sports is local" — pointing to the intense fan reaction following UNC’s victory over Duke as proof that regional rivalries hold ultimate weight regardless of national playoff brackets. Finally, the show pays tribute to legendary former NC State head coach Chuck Amato following his passing, addresses the latest injury addition for the Carolina Hurricanes, and a fashion observation from Ovies after he attended the NC State Fair.

Schedules didn't line up for a late-night OG After Dark, so Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio fired up the mics for a special Sunday "OG Morning After" following North Carolina's thrilling 24-20 victory over Duke at Wallace Wade Stadium. The Victory Bell is heading back to Chapel Hill after the Tar Heels fully accepted their identity under Bill Belichick — following their script to stay in position and executing late when it mattered most. Duke head coach Manny Diaz has frequently praised his Blue Devils for learning how to win "in the sewer," but it was Belichick who perfected that gritty style of play on Saturday, flipping the script on Durham. With this victory, Belichick officially secures his signature win at UNC. While beating a ranked Pitt squad was a nice résumé builder, games against Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest are what truly define the health of the Tar Heel program. After going winless against their in-state rivals last season, this victory completely shifts the narrative surrounding UNC football moving forward. Plus, the guys take a quick detour around a wild national college football slate filled with shocking upsets, and open up the OG Sports Phone for live caller reactions! OG x BreakingT: https://breakingt.com/collections/the-ovies-giglio-collection?rfsn=7630833.c3bd9f7 OG Secret Stash: http://theog.shop/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OGTriangleMedia OG Membership Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1Qpevj6hElebdWc2SSGkWw/join

It's official: college football as generations knew and loved it is officially fading away. Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio break down the massive news that the College Football Playoff is finalizing an expansion deal with ESPN to grow the postseason field to a staggering 24 teams starting in 2027. While the deal still awaits final approvals, all indications point toward a massive overhaul that includes the elimination of traditional conference championship games. The guys dive into the real driver behind this shift: ballooning athletic department budgets and escalating NIL demands that have forced TV dollars to dictate the sport's entire structure. The result? A product that feels less like authentic college football and far more like "Diet NFL" or "NFL Lite". Furthermore, Ovies and Giglio issue a reality check to college head coaches and athletic directors who think a 24-team field will relieve hot-seat pressure. As history proves, expanding the field simply shifts the sliding scale of expectations—making it into a 24-team bracket won't save a job, but getting bounced in the early rounds will get coaches fired even faster. OG x BreakingT: https://breakingt.com/collections/the-ovies-giglio-collection?rfsn=7630833.c3bd9f7 OG Secret Stash: http://theog.shop/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OGTriangleMedia OG Membership Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1Qpevj6hElebdWc2SSGkWw/join