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Jonathan Kerr, CMO of Auto & General, joins us to explore how one of Australia's most successful challenger brands has built sustained growth by combining strong marketing fundamentals with relentless execution. From creating a role for himself at Auto & General to helping Budget Direct become one of the country's fastest-growing insurance brands, Jonathan shares why product should always come before growth, how marketers can take greater ownership of the 4 Ps, and what insurance consistently gets right about creativity. We also discuss the power of distinctive brand characters, audio branding, in-house creative teams and a media strategy designed to maximise long-term effectiveness. Useful links This episode is brought to you by System1. Download their creator effectiveness report here: https://system1group.com/the-creator-effectiveness-playbook Find about more about HubSpot's AEO product here: https://www.hubspot.com/products/aeo Timestamps 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:41 - How Jonathan found out about Auto and General 00:03:31 - How Jonathan created a new role for himself 00:06:58 - How to balance low price with great product 00:10:36 - Market share growth for Budget Direct 00:12:06 - Focusing on product over growth 00:13:59 - How to control more of the P’s 00:16:51 - Why does insurance produce such creative work? 00:20:52 - The power of compounding work in insurance 00:24:21 - Developing brand characters, and when to kill them off 00:30:08 - The power of audio and jingles 00:34:16 - What’s too silly to be said can be sung 00:36:13 - Why they do so much work in house 00:40:34 - Budget Direct’s unique approach to media buying 00:42:43 - How Jonathan uses AI 00:48:04 - The key challenger brand principles Jonathan has followed 00:50:59 - What makes a successful CMO? 00:52:55 - Do we need to re-educate ourselves on marketing theory? 01:00:27 - The best advice you’ve ever recieved
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