Show Notes
Derek's children are addicted to YouTube Kids and Andy thinks it's all connected to the work of Byung-Chul Han and Martin Heidegger. YouTube along with other social media, are vapid reflections of us that don't call us further into our own being, and that's the problem. Andy and Derek discuss. Be sure to grab Andy's book "When Church Stops Working" along with his other books on Amazon or, better yet, your local bookstore. Special thanks to Baker Publishing for sponsoring our podcast.
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