MK Ungovernable | What Do You Reckon?

For years Max would call and ask, “Hey mate, what do you reckon about ___?” This is that conversation, turned into a show. First episode: mind control and influence operations, with a hard look at MKUltra.

We walk through history from the priest classes and their drug and sex rituals, war as the original mass psychological operation, Operation Paperclip and the Cold War labs, Sidney Gottlieb, Operation Midnight Climax in New York and San Francisco, Ewan Cameron, Jolly West in the Haight, the moment LSD left the building, Manson and the communes, then the quieter tools that followed: pharmaceuticals, screens, surveillance, COVID-era mass formation. We flag what is documented and what is speculation. We close on how you push back: escape dialectics, Occam’s Razor, question with boldness like Jefferson, and John Lisle’s eleven questions. MK Ultra, answered with MK Ungovernable.

What they cover Ancient roots: Plato’s Cave, priests, cults, ritual drugs, war Modern U.S. programs: Bluebird, Artichoke, MKUltra, Gottlieb, Church Committee San Francisco: Midnight Climax, Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, West’s crash pad, Manson From the 1980s to now: corporate influence, pharma, social media, mass formation How to stay ungovernable

Books they read for this one Stephen Kinzer - Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control John Lisle - Project Mind Control: Sidney Gottlieb, the CIA, and the Tragedy of MKULTRA Tom O’Neill with Dan Piepenbring - Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties

Music The Exploited – Sex and Violence Slim Galliard Trio – Cement Mixer Pu-ti-put-ti Jack Kerouac – October in the Railroad Earth (with Steve Allen) Kraftwerk – Computer World Marilyn Manson – Rock is Dead The Beach Boys – Never Learn Not to Love

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(00:00:00) What Do You Reckon? (00:07:55) Mind Control Through the Ages (00:12:29) The Priest Class & the First Cults (00:23:40) Operation Paperclip & the Birth of MK Ultra (00:51:22) LSD, Gottlieb & the Origins of the Program (01:05:28) Operation Midnight Climax (01:22:55) Jolly West & the Shaver Case (01:35:05) Haight-Ashbury, Manson & Chaos (02:03:0