The Autism Mums Podcast

Autism and Challenging Behaviour with Carl Draper (Part 1)

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In this week’s episode of The Autism Mums Podcast, we welcome back Carl Draper for part one of a two-part conversation. His last episode, learning to hear a child who doesn't speak, sparked so many questions from listeners, that we invited Carl back to talk more about the topic of challenging behaviours and autism. In this first part, Carl shares his personal experiences as a parent, how his understanding of behaviour has changed over time, and why unmet needs and stress responses are so often misunderstood. Biography Carl Draper was born in a North Nottinghamshire mining village and moved to Bournemouth at 19, where he served as a beach lifeguard and discovered his love for surfing. Accepted into the Royal Marines, his plans changed after a serious leg injury during a heroic rescue, an event that earned him a Local Hero Award and a feature on BBC’s 999 Rescue. He later became RNLI head trainer for lifeguards across Dorset, then served over a decade with Dorset Ambulance Service. Shifting to education, he trained firefighters and police nationwide before retraining as a mental health nurse. Carl is currently studying at Bournemouth University. In 2015, he founded Waveslider, winning the Bournemouth Tourism Award in 2017, and began documenting life with his son Bodhi in 2020. Key Takeaways Emotional regulation in parents plays a crucial role in reducing escalation Challenging behaviour is often a stress response linked to unmet needs Changes in routine and adult stress can significantly impact a child’s ability to cope A balance between boundaries and flexibility helps create emotional safety Children learn regulation by observing the behaviour of those around them Letting go of social judgement and outdated expectations allows families to parent with confidence

Connect with Carl Draper Follow Carl’s journey with his son Bodhi on the Waverslider Photography Facebook Page Follow Carl on Instagram Connect with The Autism Mums https://theautismmums.com/ Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/theautismmums Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/theautismmums Transcript Victoria Bennion: [00:00:00] Today we're joined once again by our friend Carl Draper, who many of you will remember from episode nine. For those who don't know Carl, he is currently training to be a mental health nurse and is the founder of Wave Slider, where he shares his brilliant photographs and documents life with his son Bodhi. Victoria Bennion: Frank Bodie's Assistance Dog is also a regular on wave slider. Carl's last appearance on the podcast really struck a chord, and after that episode went live, he received an overwhelming number of messages from parents and carers wanting to know more about how he supports his son through moments of distress. Victoria Bennion: And what's often labeled as challenging behavior. So today, Carl is back with us to talk honestly and openly about exactly that we could talk to Carl for hours. So we've split our conversation into two episodes. In this first part, Carl shares his personal journey as a parent. How his understanding of [00:01:00] behavior has changed over time. Victoria Bennion: The powerful impact of learning to regulate his own emotions and what it really looks like to meet chaos with calm, even in the most public and confronting situations. This is a really raw, reflective, and incredibly insightful conversation about unmet needs, stress responses, and the reality of parenting autistic children in a world that doesn't always understand. Natalie Tealdi: Welcome to the podcast, Carl. It's great to have you back. Carl Draper: Hi, how are you? Natalie Tealdi: Good. Thank you. So can we start by explaining how you define challenging behavior in the context of autism, and can you also give us some examples of what you've encountered? Carl Draper: Okay, so I guess our definition of challenging behavior is. Changing at the moment in terms or context of autism? I think the one thing to remember where th

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