In Walks a Woman

85. Kristin Hannah's THE WOMEN, a Nurse's Perspective, with Carmen Caffey

In Walks a Woman

Show Notes

Content Note: This episode discusses war, physical trauma and injury, PTSD, and suicide, as portrayed in the novel and in the historical record. Please take care while listening, and feel free to skip or pause as needed.

IWAW Welcomes Guest Reader, Carmen Caffey RN:

This episode takes a closer look at Kristin Hannah's #1 bestselling novel THE WOMEN (St. Martin's Press, 2024), the story of Frances "Frankie" McGrath, a young nurse who serves with the U.S. Army Nurse Corps during the Vietnam War and returns home to a country that isn't ready to see her.

Joining us is guest reader Carmen Caffey, a nurse who specializes in burn trauma care and is also a cancer survivor. Carmen brings a clinician's eye to the novel, weighing in on the medical realities of trauma nursing.

Sonja rounds out the conversation with historical research into how Vietnam veterans were received upon returning home, the long fight to recognize the women who served as nurses, oral history projects that have preserved their stories, and the progress made over the decades to honor them.

If you've read THE WOMEN, this episode is a chance to get a medical and historical perspective on the events in the novel.

Thank you for listening. If this episode brought up anything difficult, please reach out to someone you trust, or to a crisis or veterans' support line in your area.

REFERENCES:

Echoes of the War podcast

Myth of the spat-on Vietnam veteran

The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam by Jerry Lembcke Argues that contrary to popular myth, relations between veterans and antiwar activists were mutually empathetic and supportive for the most part

Diane Carlson Evan’s book: Healing Wounds

Diane Carlson Evans: “The memorial was established not only to honor those women who served, but also for the families who lost loved ones in the war, so they would know about the women who provided comfort, care, and a human touch for those who were suffering and dying.” VVMF.org

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