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In this episode of Money Code, hosts Chuk Okpalugo and Raj Parekh sit down with Sam Broner, co-founder and CEO of the Better Money Company and former investment partner at a16z crypto. They unpack why swapping one stablecoin for another today is like "selling Wells Fargo dollars to buy Bank of America dollars," why fungibility is the missing layer that turns stablecoins into real money, and what changes when AI agents show up needing to pay without a credit history.
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Chapters 00:00 The stablecoin clearinghouse: BMC's 30-second pitch 01:24 "Selling Wells Fargo dollars to buy Bank of America dollars" 04:41 M&A merry-go-round: who builds vs. who buys 07:24 "We sell trust" — what payments companies actually need 10:05 Tourists in the Bazaar: why agents can't use credit rails 14:07 From ChatGPT to Cisco: how agent payment terms evolve 16:03 Protocol wars and intelligence at the edge 18:30 The incentive puzzle: why interchange fees exist 22:10 Emerging vs. developed markets: two different products 24:32 The innovator's dilemma: incumbents won't cannibalize 26:53 Five Bells Tavern: 200 years of clearing history in 5 minutes 29:15 Custom stablecoins, treasury management, and the partner list 35:49 No slippage vs. no fee: how BMC makes money 40:59 The endgame: "just see your dollar balance"
Connect with the Hosts & Guest Chuk Okpalugo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuk-okpalugo/ | https://x.com/chuk_xyz/ | http://stablecoinblueprint.com Raj Parekh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajparekh7/ | https://x.com/rajparekh | http://monad.xyz Sam Broner: https://x.com/SamBroner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/sambroner/ | https://bettermoney.com
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