
Show Notes
The world needs more exceptional people to choose to go into politics. Allegra Spender is the exception on many levels, and in this episode of StoryWork we talk about her quite radical approach to politics and to being a politician.
Allegra was a McKinsey consultant with every possible option in front of her. But instead of seeking business success she chose public service.
I sat down and spoke to Allegra in the wake of the federal budget, and just before she and her colleague, Zali Steggall, announced their plans to form a new political party. I wanted to understand her experience with politics, and look at the roles of leadership and advocacy through the lens of story.
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