Leading Saints Podcast

Second-Guessing Someone Else’s Revelation | An Interview with Christopher Blythe

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Show Notes

Brigham Young University professor and religious folklorist Christopher Blythe discusses the nature of revelation, spiritual manifestations, and claims to mysticism within Latter-day Saint history and culture. The conversation examines how members and leaders can evaluate personal spiritual experiences, navigate claims of revelation that exceed proper authority, and guard against deceptive influences or speculative practices.

Dr. Christopher Blythe is an assistant professor of English at BYU, where he teaches courses on folklore, myth, and Latter-day Saint literature. He holds a PhD in American Religion from Florida State University, an MA in History from Utah State University, and a BA in Religious Studies from Utah State University. Professionally, Dr. Blythe has worked extensively as a religious folklorist and historian, including previous roles with the Joseph Smith Papers Project, the Church History Department, and as a research associate at the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship. He is also the author of Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, a study on millenarianism and lay visions in Church history.

As a convert who joined the Church at age 13, Dr. Blythe’s research centers on “vernacular religion”—exploring how everyday members live, share, and interpret their faith on the ground. Over the years, he has served in various Church callings, including as a missionary in West Virginia, a high priest group leader, and in various local leadership and teaching assignments. He resides in Utah with his family, where he also co-hosts online content exploring Latter-day Saint history and folklore.

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Highlights

00:03:00 – Dr. Christopher Blythe on Religious Folklore and Vernacular Religion

00:06:22 – Navigating Mysticism, Personal Stories, and Spiritual Trump Cards

00:09:18 – Calling Members, Priesthood Keys, and Avoiding Manipulation

00:17:11 – Cultural Misconceptions Around Foreordination and Pre-Existence

00:20:34 – Hiram Page, D&C 28, and the Order of Revelatory Authority

00:23:25 – Kirtland Manifestations, D&C 50 & 52, and Trying the Spirits

00:29:21 – Continuationism, Manifestations, and Modern Church History

00:35:16 – Discernment and Circles of Confidence in Sharing Personal Revelations

00:44:17 – Recognizing Divine Manifestations and the Baptism of Fire

00:47:10 – Cognitive Bias, Discomfort, and the Cost of Discipleship

00:54:02 – The 1913 Dream Mine First Presidency Statement on Speculation

01:02:37 – Offshoot Movements, Energy Healing, and Focusing on the Family

01:09:05 – Addressing Doubts, Questions, and Counterfeit Revelations

01:12:41 – Handbook Guidance on Energy Healing

Key Insights

Vernacular Religion & Interpretation: Official Church handbooks, scriptures, and doctrines provide structure, but “vernacular religion”—how individual members interpret and live their faith on the ground—shapes how spiritual experiences and calls are experienced day-to-day.

Hierarchy and Bounds of Revelation: Early Church history, such as the 1830 revelation regarding Hiram Page’s seer stone (D&C 28), established the fundamental principle that while all members are entitled to personal revelation for their own spheres, only the head of the Church receives revelation to direct the Church as a whole.

Trying the Spirits: Grounded in early revelations (such as D&C 50 and 52), leaders and members are instructed to “try the spirits” to ensure spiritual manifestations align with standard Church doctrine, priesthood channels, and sound judgment rather than self-serving claims or deceptive influences.

Mysticism vs. Daily Discipleship: Spiritual trump cards or over-mystifying administrative decisions can lead to manipulation or unrealistic expectations. True spiritual grounding

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