Show Notes
Can AI move fast and still be safe? As the debate over AI safety and innovation grows more polarized, we explore the practical work of making powerful systems accountable.
In this episode of The Deep View Conversations, we sit down with Navina Singh, CEO of Credo AI, to talk about what AI governance means for frontier labs, enterprises, and policymakers. They explore why governance is broader than regulation, how organizations can test and verify their AI systems, and what happens when capabilities advance faster than oversight. Topics covered: • Why Navrina sees AI safety and innovation as goals that can advance together • What the Hugging Face agent incident raises about frontier AI oversight • The “spectrum of trust,” from internal testing to independent audits and regulation • The risk of regulatory capture and the role of open models • How businesses weigh AI capability, cost, and control while managing "governance debt" • How Credo AI uses forward-deployed governance experts to help companies put oversight into practice • Why expertise, taste, and judgment remain valuable as AI takes on more work
If you’re building, buying, or governing AI, this conversation offers a practical way to think about trust without losing sight of the technology’s promise.
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