'A New Kind of Wilderness' with Nik Payne

Lawrence and Mat sit down with Nik Payne - father of four, widower and the heart of the Sundance-winning documentary A New Kind of Wilderness.

They talk about raising kids in the Norwegian wilderness, life after the loss of his wife Maria and what it really means to hold onto your values as a man and father when life takes you far off the map - emotionally, physically and spiritually.

It’s a raw, honest conversation about resilience, grief and intentional parenting in a world that doesn’t always make space for it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices