
Show Notes
Alex is a research PM at Anthropic building the next Claude model. He gave me a rare inside look at how the research team operates — including how they turn user feedback into model training, how they decide which capabilities to prioritize, and how they improve Claude’s personality. If you’re wondering how frontier model development actually works, then this interview is a must watch. Alex and I talked about: (00:00) How Anthropic treats each new model as a product (04:58) Building adaptive thinking into Claude (07:07) Why Claude is starting to dream (11:15) "If it's not a one-way door, then it's essentially free" (15:40) How Alex uses Claude Cowork to pressure test his docs (17:05) Inside Anthropic's eval process for new models (21:02) How Anthropic trains Claude's character (32:39) The consciousness question Anthropic is quietly working on
Thanks to our sponsors: Oceans: Hire AI-native EAs http://oceanstalent.com/peter Wispr Flow: Don't type, just speak https://ref.wisprflow.ai/peteryang
Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-how-anthropic-is-building-the-next-claude
Where to find Alex: X: https://x.com/alexalbert__ Website: alexalbert.me
📌 Subscribe to this channel — more interviews coming soon!
More from Behind the Craft
Pomp and I worked together at Facebook a decade ago before he became an investor, best-selling author, and public company CEO with an audience of 3.3M. We had a great chat about how to build an extraordinary career and life and how he's building Silvia, an AI CFO for independent investors, to take on the AI labs.
Micky is a full-stack engineer who has taught 100K+ people how to build with AI. In our episode, he walked me through his 4-step agentic engineering workflow to avoid pumping out slop: Isolate every task, build to a clear structure, prove via validation loops, and ship after agents review your PRs or escalate to you for a manual look.
Sam is the co-founder of Granola, the AI meeting notes app now valued at $1.5B. Granola has helped me survive (and even enjoy) countless meetings, so I was excited to learn how Sam uses AI to show up prepared. We also talked about building an AI-native company without the 996 grind and what design means when agents skip your app entirely.
Copy my best AI workflows to save time and automate busywork: https://www.behindthecraft.com 🤝 Subscribe to my practical AI newsletter read by 150K+ professionals: https://creatoreconomy.so
Ethan is the product lead for ChatGPT Finances at OpenAI. He previously co-founded Digit, which helped more than 10 million people save over $9 billion. In our interview, he shared six practical ways to use ChatGPT to find wasted spending, save money on taxes, maximize credit card rewards, and model major financial decisions. I’m confident at least one of these use cases will save you money today.