Security Mondays with Eva Benn

Former FBI Spy on How Spies and Hackers Use AI in 2026 | Eric O'Neill | Season 1 EP 10

Security Mondays with Eva Benn

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Hi, I'm Eva Benn. Every Monday morning I bring you some of the best global security leaders to talk through what's actually top of mind, the threats they're seeing, the tools they're using, and the decisions they're making right now. Every episode is designed to give you practical things you can go and implement in your organization this week. This week I sat down with Eric O'Neill, the FBI counterintelligence operative who brought down Robert Hanssen, founder of The Georgetown Group and NeXasure AI, and the USA Today bestselling author of Spies, Lies, and Cybercrime. They go deep on what the old counterintelligence playbook teaches security leaders about today's AI-driven attacks, why the hiring pipeline is the new front door, and the boardroom conversation CISOs aren't having yet. Eric founded The Georgetown Group and NeXasure AI. His new book Spies, Lies, and Cybercrime came out from HarperCollins in October 2025 and hit USA Today's bestseller list. We talked about what counterintelligence teaches us about today's threats, including the espionage tradecraft now running at machine speed: AI-generated identities, deepfake interviews, North Korean operators inside U.S. companies, and the surveillance stack that can read a heartbeat through a wall. If you find this helpful, I'd appreciate a thumbs up, subscribe, and share. It helps more people find the show. Connect with Eric: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-m-oneill • Website: https://ericoneill.net/ • Newsletter (Spies, Lies & Cybercrime): https://spies-lies-cybercrime.ericoneill.net • X / Twitter: https://twitter.com/eoneill • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPLsW0-H8dfsx_oQXnTVLJg • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericoneill.official/• NeXasure AI leadership page: https://nexasure.ai/about/leaders/eric-oneill/ Resources we mention in the video The Georgetown Group: https://www.georgetowngroup.com/ Books: Spies, Lies, and Cybercrime (HarperCollins, October 2025): https://ericoneill.net/books/spies_and_lies/ Gray Day (Penguin Random House, 2019): https://ericoneill.net/books/gray-day/ Nisos investigation into DPRK remote worker fraud: https://nisos.com/blog/dprk-remote-worker-fraud-interview/ FBI advisory on North Korean IT worker threats (Jan 2026 update): https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/cyber/alerts/2025/north-korean-it-worker-threats-to-u-s-businesses FBI IC3 2025 Internet Crime Report ($21B in losses): https://www.ic3.gov/AnnualReport/Reports/2025_IC3Report.pdf Palo Alto Networks on AI agents as insider threats 2026: https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/04/ai_agents_insider_threats_panw/ MICE counterintelligence framework: https://thecyberwire.com/glossary/mice Heart rate detection through walls research (Frontiers in Physiology): https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physiology/articles/10.3389/fphys.2024.1344221/full Chapters:00:00 — The cyber threat most people still underestimate03:29 — What a spy actually looks like in 202605:38 — The dangerous assumption making companies easy targets07:40 — The espionage playbook every cybercriminal now uses11:08 — A simple framework to stay ahead of attackers12:15 — When one attacker can do the work of an entire team16:30 — Why your employees are the new attack surface20:05 — The spy tactics hiding inside modern cybercrime23:28 — The AI agent mistake that can expose your entire company27:24 — The interview scam fooling companies worldwide37:05 — The hidden industry collecting your personal data39:35 — The conversation every board should be having right nowFollow along for more free cybersecurity education. 🤗LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evabenn/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evabennofficial/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@evabennofficialWebsite: https://www.evabenn.com/

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