Herm & Schrader

Did Denny Hamlin's Words Change Hocevar's Driving?

Herm & Schrader

Show Notes

Eighteen cautions, four-wide into turn one on a flat mile, brakes going away everywhere you looked – and at the end of it Kyle Larson breaks a 51-race drought on four fresh tires while Joey Logano sits there with two. The guys agree last weekend was one of the best races they've seen at the track -- and they'd tell you if it wasn't.

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