
93: Trauma, Autoimmunity, and the Emerging Science of Psychedelic Therapy – With Dr. Will Van Derveer
Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations with Dr. Izabella WentzShow Notes
In this episode of Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations, Dr. Izabella Wentz interviews integrative psychiatrist Dr. Will Van Derveer about the often-misunderstood field psychedelic-assisted therapy, and how it may be an effective tool for trauma healing and even deeper root cause work. Emphasizing the importance of safety, screening, and in-person clinical support, Dr. Van Derveer discusses the myths and misconceptions about these therapies, how they are very different from recreational drug use, and why they may offer new hope for people dealing with treatment-resistant PTSD depression, and more.
Together, they explore how trauma can shape immune function, inflammation, and even autoimmune conditions. They also discuss EMDR, somatic work, spiritual disconnection, mental health stigma, and the nuanced differences between MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in therapeutic settings. While this field is rapidly evolving, he emphasizes that these therapies are not a DIY solution and can be unpredictable or even destabilizing without proper clinical guidance.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
Why psychedelic-assisted therapy is not the same as recreational drug use. Dr. Van Derveer explains that these therapies are used in highly specific clinical settings, with careful screening, preparation, dosing, and follow-up. He also shares why trying to replicate these experiences on your own can be risky, unpredictable, and potentially dangerous, highlighting the critical role of trained practitioners in creating a therapeutic (not recreational) environment.
How unresolved trauma may become an overlooked root cause in chronic illness. Trauma can affect inflammation, immune function, the HPA-axis, and even autoimmune conditions like Hashimoto’s. This is especially relevant for people with thyroid issues, who may have focused only on the physical side of healing while missing an important emotional piece.
Why talk therapy alone may not always be enough. Some people can clearly identify their patterns, understand their trauma intellectually, and still feel stuck. Dr. Van Derveer shares why layered or preverbal trauma may require different approaches, including EMDR, somatic therapies, or psychedelic-assisted therapy, to help people access healing beyond words.
The key differences between MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in therapeutic settings. Each therapy has a distinct mechanism, duration, and use case. Dr. Van Derveer breaks down how MDMA is being studied for PTSD, psilocybin for depression, and ketamine for rapid symptom relief, and why clinical MDMA and psilocybin therapy may offer longer-lasting benefits.
Why safety, preparation, and the right practitioner are everything. Dr. Van Derveer explains how improper dosing, lack of preparation, or the wrong environment can overwhelm the nervous system – while skilled guidance can support meaningful and lasting healing.
How trauma healing may improve thyroid antibodies and autoimmune flares. While psychedelic-assisted therapy is not a magic bullet, Dr. Van Derveer has observed improvements not only in mental health symptoms, but also in markers like thyroid antibodies and autoimmune flare frequency, reinforcing the deep connection between emotional and immune health.
Tune in to learn more about trauma, safety, and the evolving role of psychedelic-assisted therapy in root-cause healing.
Be sure to subscribe to the Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations podcast so you don’t miss an episode!
Sign up for the Thyroid Pharmacist Weekly Thyroid Solutions Newsletter here: https://thyroidpharmacist.com/gift/
For the full list of resources and products mentioned in this episode, and to get the full episode transcript, see complete show notes here: https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/podcast/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
More from Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations with Dr. Izabella Wentz
In this episode of Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations, Dr. Izabella Wentz speaks with Dr. Efrat LaMandre (Dr. E) about medical gaslighting, why it happens, and how patients can change their approach to ensure they get the right care. Dr. E. explains why doctors may seem dismissive if they don’t find anything on lab tests, why patients can unintentionally dismiss their own symptoms, and how to communicate in a way that healthcare providers understand. She also shares practical strategies for self-advocacy and how to find answers when a doctor’s visit doesn’t bring the clarity you’re certain you need.
In this episode of Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations, Dr. Izabella Wentz speaks with Dr. Richard Horowitz, an integrative physician who has spent more than 40 years working with complex chronic illness, including Lyme and tick-borne diseases. His work eventually led him to develop the MSIDS model, or Multiple Systemic Infectious Disease Syndrome, which looks at 16 different factors that may contribute to chronic illness rather than focusing solely on a diagnosis or individual symptoms.
In this episode of the Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations podcast, Dr. Izabella Wentz speaks with hormone expert Dr. Jolene Brighten about why ADHD is so often missed in women and how hormonal changes throughout a woman’s life can influence the way ADHD symptoms show up. From puberty and hormonal birth control to postpartum, the menstrual cycle, perimenopause, and postmenopause, they explore why some women may not recognize their neurodivergence until midlife, and why understanding how the brain works can be a powerful first step toward finding the right tools and support.
In this episode of the Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations podcast, Dr. Izabella Wentz interviews Dr. Erin Kinney, naturopathic doctor and author of The Cortisol Cure. She offers a fresh perspective on cortisol and its role in energy, stress, and healing. Rather than viewing cortisol as a hormone that is always “bad” and needs to be lowered, Dr. Kinney explains why understanding how the body uses and replenishes cortisol can change the way we approach burnout, chronic stress, and autoimmune health.
In this episode of the Thyroid Pharmacist Healing Conversations podcast, Dr. Izabella Wentz interviews Dr. Miles Nichols, DAOM, MSOM, LAc, founder of Medicine With Heart Clinic and the Medicine With Heart Institute. Dr. Miles shares his personal Hashimoto’s healing journey, including his experience with debilitating fatigue and brain fog despite being told that his initial testing looked “normal.” His search for answers ultimately led him to look beyond conventional thyroid markers and uncover several potential root causes contributing to his symptoms.