
Show Notes
The American justice system punishes millions of people every year. That’s what we expect it to do – punish wrongdoing. That’s what we call justice. But what if it could do something more, something that would make this country better, stronger, and safer? In Season 2 of When It Clicked, host Ana Zamora sits down with a surprising mix of leaders and experts who are showing what a better, more productive justice system actually looks and feels like – from how to handle kids who commit crimes, to how new technology can change outcomes in prison. This season, you’ll see how making key changes to how we do justice in America actually benefits all of us. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
More from When It Clicked
What did the Elizabeth Holmes documentary leave out about the Theranos scandal? Just 34 days before reporting to federal prison, Elizabeth Holmes invited a documentary crew into her life. Now, the new Nathan Fielder documentary, You Can See Everything, is raising even more questions about one of the most infamous fraud cases in recent history.
What would it look like if our justice system could identify when we get things wrong – and actually fix those mistakes? WNBA legend Maya Moore stepped away from basketball at the peak of her career to help free Jonathan Irons, who spent over 20 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Now married, their story reveals what's possible when we stay connected across prison walls, fight to make the system more accountable, and refuse to accept injustice. To learn more, visit Maya and Jonathan’s nonprofit at winwithjustice.org, and be sure to check out their documentary, Breakaway. Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How can new technologies help prisons improve outcomes for people and communities? Outdated systems mean incarcerated people often lack a clear pathway to release – and might even overstay their prison sentence simply because of disorganized data. Clementine Jacoby, CEO and cofounder of Recidiviz, is tackling this problem by working with corrections departments across the country to modernize their data systems and introduce AI solutions. By enabling prisons to do their jobs more efficiently and effectively, Recidiviz has helped 156,000 incarcerated people safely return home and saved states more than 1.3 billion dollars. To learn more about the work happening at Recidiviz, visit recidiviz.org. Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
How can we think differently about accountability for kids in the justice system? Hollywood producer Scott Budnick built his career making blockbuster hits like The Hangover, but his real passion is working with incarcerated youth. In this episode, Scott talks about how one visit to a juvenile hall reshaped his purpose and set him on a mission to support young people caught in the justice system. As founder of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition and CEO of 1Community, Scott is helping youth rewrite their stories – and pushing for a system that gives them a real chance. Learn more about the Anti Recidivism Coalition at antirecidivism.org and 1Community at 1community.com. Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What if the key to safer cities isn’t harsher punishments, but more peacebuilding? Aqeela Sherrills helped broker the 1992 peace treaty between the Bloods and Crips – an agreement that cut LA homicides nearly in half. Since then, he’s been using that same approach to transform neighborhoods across America as co-founder of the Community-Based Public Safety Collective, where he trains everyday people in conflict resolution and deescalation strategies alongside local law enforcement. After decades pioneering this work, Aqeela brings us a better way for communities to reclaim safety, restore trust, and heal from within. Watch Aqeela Sherrills’ Ted Talk, “The grassroots movement transforming public safety" and learn about Community-Based Public Safety Collective at cbpscollective.org and Scaling Safety at scalesafety.org. Follow When it Clicked wherever you get your podcasts. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Want to become a Lemonada superfan? Join us at joinsubtext.com/lemonadasuperfan. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and all other Lemonada series: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.