#145: How to Lead Without Burning Out (or Burning Bridges) with Ginger Boyll
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How do you grow a remote-first team from 30 to over 100 while still being voted a "great place to work"? Ginger Boyll says it’s part Agile mindset, part trust, and part Dungeons & Dragons—and we’re not arguing.
Overview
In this episode of the Agile Mentors Podcast, guest host Scott Dunn sits down with Ginger Boyll, Director of Client Experience at Stable Kernel, for a refreshingly candid conversation about leadership, collaboration, and creating cultures where people thrive, even remotely.
From the magic of psychological safety to timesheet woes, CliftonStrengths charts, and the underrated art of letting someone else just do the thing, this episode is a masterclass in how empathy and agility show up far beyond process.
References and resources mentioned in the show:
Ginger Boyll Stable Kernel The Fearless Organization by Amy Edmonson Range by David Epstein Built to Last by Jim Collins Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier Paul Graham’s Maker’s Schedule, Manager’s Schedule 25 Questions That Will Help You Know Your Teammates Better Join the Agile Mentors Community Subscribe to the Agile Mentors Podcast
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This episode’s presenters are:
Scott Dunn is a Certified Enterprise Coach and Scrum Trainer with over 20 years of experience coaching and training companies like NASA, EMC/Dell Technologies, Yahoo!, Technicolor, and eBay to transition to an agile approach using Scrum.
Ginger Boyll is the Director of Client Experience at Stable Kernel. She is a natural problem-solver with a passion for people, bringing deep experience in Agile delivery, tech strategy, and cross-functional collaboration to every project she touches.
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