
When Is the Right Time to Move from a Commercial Kitchen to Co-Manufacturing?
Scaling Your Healthy Food ProductShow Notes
Most food founders ask the wrong question. They ask "Am I ready for a co-manufacturer?" when the question they should be asking is "How much time do I have?" In this episode, I share the story of a snack bar founder who called me frustrated after approaching three co-manufacturers with six months until his retail launch date. He made it — but the process was painful, rushed, and strained relationships he'll be managing for years. I don't want that story for you. Today I break down the three signals that tell you it's time to start the co-manufacturing conversation — before urgency forces your hand — plus a concrete backwards-planning timeline so you know exactly how early "early" actually is. In this episode: The real reason the best co-manufacturers are hard to get into (and it's not your product) The three signals that tell you to start the conversation now Why your margin getting worse as your volume grows is a sign, not a coincidence How to work backwards from your retail date to know when to act The difference between a proactive founder and a reactive one — and what it costs you to be the latter Take the Scale Up & Retail Readiness Quiz: [Get to Know Your Score] co-manufacturing co-packer commercial kitchen food founder scaling food business food startup retail ready minimum order quantity MOQ food business margins COGS food product development emerging food brands healthy food brand snack brand food entrepreneur retail launch food scale up plant trial ETS Method food business strategy CPG founder better for you food food manufacturing production planning
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