Show Notes
A nine-minute marathon PB is impressive, but coming back from a heart condition, two pregnancies, and years away from racing is the real story behind Brooke Williams extraordinary running career. Brooke shares the brutal, honest, and deeply inspiring path that took her from “you’ll never run again” to elite marathon racing, and why she still believes her best day is ahead. In this incredible chat we spoke about the moments that changed everything - from a shocking collapse and a terrifying diagnosis of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy to the long stretch of uncertainty, grief, and recovery that followed. Brooke also opens up about what it took to return to running after time off, how she rebuilt her confidence through two pregnancies, and why she now races with a completely different mindset. Key topics: We discuss her early breakthrough at Zatopek, where a junior national title and PB showed her she could be more than a casual runner. She opens up about collapsing after a hot session before Zatopek, then being diagnosed with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and told she would never run again. We discuss the emotional impact of testing, fear, medical uncertainty, and how meeting a specialist who understood athletes changed everything. Brooke shares how she returned to running after being cleared, then built back through postpartum. She talks about racing as a new mother, including 2:56 in Noosa, 2:47:11 in Sydney, and 2:45:02 in Osaka. We discuss the realities of being a marathon mum. Brooke reflects on how motherhood and running have shaped each other. Brookes story is as much about resilience as it is about performance - and it’s a reminder that big goals, motherhood, and health challenges can coexist in ways most people never see.If you’re a runner, a mum, or someone trying to keep moving through a season that feels challenging, this episode will leave you motivated, reassured, and ready to show up again. Timestamps (3:14) Introducing the small town girl. (5:26) Gold Coast half marathon, near-PB pacing, and the power of racing in a pack. (7:38) Marathon-focused training, Osaka, London, and learning to respect the distance. (9:04) Current training structure and adapting sessions around winter work hours. (13:26) How marathon training creates accumulated fatigue and when motivation becomes a warning sign. (15:29) The cliff edge of marathon preparation and why rest sometimes matters more than another run. (21:21) How it all started. (23:36) From road marathons to track racing and a surprise national-level breakthrough. (27:34) Mountain running, national exposure, and then stepping away from the sport. (29:29) Choosing family, teaching, and a break from the all-or-nothing mindset. (34:34) Returning to running, hitting 16:14 for 5K, and the collapse before Zatopek. (35:23) The cardiomyopathy diagnosis and the first shock of being told she would not run again. (38:33) The difficult medical appointments, testing, and the emotional fallout. (43:05) The specialist who changed everything. (49:25) Marriage, pregnancy, and the return to training. (53:51) Postpartum return with Hudson and the coaching shift that rebuilt confidence. (57:34) First postpartum PB, 16:37 for 5K, and feeling like she was back. (61:03) Moving into the marathon again, Noosa, and deciding to go all in. (72:25) Mum guilt, fatigue, and the emotional load of training while parenting. (77:10) Sydney Marathon call room nerves, elite company, and the full-circle moment. (79:35) Behind the scenes as an elite at the Sydney marathon. (82:15) Sydney breakthrough - 2:47:11, ninth Australian, and a nine-minute PB. (90:08) Advice for marathon mums: believe in yourself and don’t put limits on what’s possible. (97:18) Why Brooke keeps showing up and chases the race where everything clicks.
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