Playful Nature Podcast by WildStrong

#18 Dr. Hussain Al-Zubaidi Movement as Medicine: What Primary Care Could Be

Playful Nature Podcast by WildStrong

Show Notes

This week’s guest is Dr Hussain Al-Zubaidi, a GP who’s challenging the way primary care approaches health, ageing, and behaviour change. This episode is not about tips or techniques, it’s about rethinking how we structure support. Andrew and Hussain explore what happens when we stop asking people to ‘try harder’ and start changing the environments around them. They talk about the limits of the 10-minute appointment, why traditional advice-based models often fall flat, and the power of social prescribing, group consultations, and joy-led activity. Hussain shares his personal story, from receiving a fatty liver diagnosis in his twenties to attending his first Park Run in a pair of paint-stained joggers, and how this experience reshaped his practice as a GP. This is a conversation about ladders, not lectures. Strength, not prescriptions. And the vital difference between telling people what to do- and helping them build the confidence to try. Bio: Dr Hussain Al-Zubaidi is a GP with an extended role in lifestyle medicine (GPwERLM). He has always endeavoured to take a holistic view on healthcare and is the personalised care lead for the Leamington PCN. He leads the RCGP’s lifestyle and physical activity team; heads the UK’s first PCN-based fitness club; works as a TV doctor on This Morningand Good Morning Britain; leads on health partnerships for parkrun UK; is a trustee at ThinkActive (the regional active partnership); and sits on the advisory board for SWIM England. When not working, Hussain is a keen triathlete, representing his country. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction and Hussain’s early story 01:40 – Barriers to movement growing up 04:30 – A wake-up call: fatty liver diagnosis 06:00 – Parkrun with no trainers: a new chapter 08:00 – Identity shift through movement 10:45 – Behaviour change: ladders vs mountains 14:30 – How group consultations change outcomes 18:20 – Why the 10-minute model is failing 25:00 – The structure of Leamington’s lifestyle clinics 33:00 – The TOY method: Trust – Observe – Yield 42:00 – Challenging well-meaning but limiting advice 45:00 – Strength and age: doing more, not less 51:00 – Building social options for meaningful strength 55:00 – What gives Hussain hope about the system 60:00 – Final reflections and a story of reversal Resources & Links: RCGP GP with extended role in lifestyle medicine

RCGP Physical Activity Hub

Red Whale Lifestyle Medicine Course

Parkrun Practice Initiative

Mental Health Swims

Think Active

Music: Opening and closing music by Mary Erskine aka Me for Queen, from the track Exercise. Used with kind permission.

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