Charlie Rose: In-Depth Interviews of Americas Best

The Rise of China and America's Response With Evan Osnos

Charlie Rose: In-Depth Interviews of Americas Best

Summary

Evan Osnos, a prominent journalist and author, reflects on the recent summit between Xi Jinping and Donald Trump, emphasizing the contrasting approaches of the two leaders. Xi frames the U.S.-China relationship in historical terms, highlighting the need to avoid conflict as both nations rise and fall in global power dynamics. In contrast, Trump focuses on business and economic deals, suggesting a disconnect in their communication styles, likening it to "a duck talking to a chicken."

Osnos, who has reported extensively on China, discusses the implications of the summit for Taiwan and the broader geopolitical landscape. He notes that while Trump’s comments on Taiwan raised concerns among observers, Xi's long-term strategy appears to be one of patience, believing that pressure will eventually bring Taiwan closer to China. The conversation also touches on Xi's consolidation of power within China, contrasting his leadership style with that of his predecessor, Deng Xiaoping, and the challenges posed by internal dissent and economic pressures.

The discussion extends to the technological race between the U.S. and China, particularly in artificial intelligence. Osnos argues that while both nations are competitive, their approaches differ significantly. The U.S. seeks to lead in AI development, while China applies it pragmatically across various sectors. He warns that the stakes are high, as advancements in AI could lead to significant geopolitical shifts and stresses the importance of resilience in both political systems.

Ultimately, Osnos expresses cautious optimism about the U.S.'s ability to navigate its challenges and maintain its global standing, emphasizing the need for renewed focus on opportunity and equality to inspire future generations.

Show Notes

A Charlie Rose Global Conversation:Uploaded 03-06-26Evan Osnos won the prestigious National Book Award for Nonfiction in 2014 for his book Age of Ambition: Chasing Fortune, Truth, and Faith in the New China. The rise of China has been a focus of his reporting career, along with American politics and the impact of our wealthiest individuals.Osnos graduated from Harvard and, since 2008, has been a staff writer for The New Yorker. Previously, he was a reporter for the Chicago Tribune, covering the Middle East.He worked in China for both The New Yorker and the Chicago Tribune and witnessed the country’s economic growth within the tight political control of the Communist Party. His subject was often the people impacted by the transformation.Evan Osnos has written several books that reflect his reporting. They are:• The Haves and the Have-Yachts • Wildland: The Making of America’s Fury • Joe Biden: The Life, the Run, and What Matters Now • Age of Ambition: Chasing Fortune, Truth, and Faith in the New China Evan Osnos was in Shanghai and Beijing for the summit meeting between Xi Jinping and Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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