
GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland
Gemba Academy Podcast: Lean Six Sigma | Toyota Kata | Productivity | LeadershipShow Notes
This week's guests are Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland. Ron, Heather, and Adam discussed how lean is being applied in legal settings, the status quo when it comes to AI, what the future might look like, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here.
In this episode you'll learn:
The quotes that inspire Heather and Adam (3:44) Their backgrounds (5:37) The role of lean (7:36) Examples of using lean in a legal setting (10:20) What they're learning (13:01) The future of AI and its effect on humanity (17:38) Challenges as it relates to lean and AI (19:14) What things will look like in five years (24:52) The adoption of lean in the legal industry (27:01) Moving from control to curiosity (29:10) Their final words of wisdom (33:33)
Podcast Resources
Right Click to Download this Podcast as an MP3 Adam on LinkedIn Heather on LinkedIn GA 326 | Lean and Law in the UK with Adam Marsland GA 422 | Getting Lean Buy-In with Adam Marsland
Get All the Latest News from Gemba Academy Our newsletter is a great way to receive updates on new courses, blog posts, and more. Sign up here. What Do You Think? Are you concerned for the future in regards to AI? Why or why not?
More from Gemba Academy Podcast: Lean Six Sigma | Toyota Kata | Productivity | Leadership
Most kaizen practitioners know the moment when a skeptic turns. It can take a day, a week, or nine months, but something clicks and the person who crossed their arms at the start is now telling the VP what their line accomplished. Adam Lawrence has spent decades collecting those moments, and he has built a framework around making them more likely to happen. That framework just got a significant overhaul.
Most people who feel overwhelmed blame their schedule. Peggy Sullivan argues the diagnosis itself is wrong. Time poverty has nothing to do with time management and everything to do with capacity, and until you start subtracting, no amount of better planning will get you out from under it.
Value stream mapping is one of the most familiar tools in lean practice. Christian Wolcott has spent 25 years using it with clients from Toyota suppliers to NASA, and he arrived at a question that most practitioners never think to ask: what if you mapped your own life the same way? The seed came not from a client engagement or a sensei, but from his daughter, who sketched a rough timeline on a note card after joining him on a Japan study tour. That sketch became a book, and the book became a method.
Most lean practitioners know the theory of constraints. Fewer apply it before they start fixing things. Hessam Vali, a manufacturing consultant and MES software founder based in Wichita, argues that most improvement efforts fail because they target the wrong kinks in the hose. His framework is deceptively simple: if the deepest constraint is still in place, no one will ever see your work.
Most resistance to lean is blamed on the wrong thing. Ben Morley, an Air Force pilot turned Lean Six Sigma consultant, argues the tools are never really the problem. The breakdown almost always lives somewhere between leadership buy-in and an assumption nobody thought to question. His conversation with Ron Pereira covers cockpit emergencies, a $5 million backlog that dissolved from a single customer phone call, and what a caterpillar turning to soup has to do with organizational transformation.