Show Notes
Dr. Keeonna Harris was 14 when she got pregnant, and before her son turned one, his father, Jason Espinoza, was starting a 22-year prison sentence. For the next two decades she drove up and down California so her kids would know their dad, the story at the center of her memoir Mainline Mama. Jason came home after 20 years and now works inside prisons as a counselor with the Amity Foundation. Jeremiah Chin (now Keeonna's husband and a law professor at the University of Washington) came into her life as her marriage to Jason was ending, and the two men met in person for the first time at Zion's baseball game.
That game is the spine of this conversation, told from all three seats on the couch. Jason admits he showed up with no tools for anything but a fight. Keeonna walks away from one she once would have won and realizes her absence lands harder than her anger. Jeremiah decides he'd rather be the bridge between them than the wall.
This one is for anyone co-parenting across an old love. It's also for anyone whose family looks nothing like what they imagined, and who is still deciding what it can become.
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