Danger Zone!? - "I Led Every Game...Until My Interests Weren't Cool" -Autistic Rejection | Episode 2
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James Kenyon sits down to chat with co-host James “Maverik” Hollis and explore Maverik’s undiagnosed autistic childhood in the 1990s at primary school – Maverik talks of his struggle with maths, bullying, masking, and the rare moments of real connection that kept him going.
In this raw and relatable conversation, Maverik (James Hollis) opens up to James Kenyon about growing up as an undiagnosed autistic kid in primary school. He shares the frustration of being labelled a “slow learner” (especially in maths), how certain teaching styles left him lost, and the daily reality of bullying and social exclusion. Yet there were bright spots: languages came naturally, history became a refuge, and carefully planned playground games gave him the predictability he craved.
The two Jameses reflect on how small changes – more practical teaching, interest-led friendships, and genuine inclusion – could have transformed those years, and what today’s schools can still learn from Maverik’s story.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Neurodivergence and Personal Stories 01:51 Challenges in Learning: A Personal Reflection 03:41 The Impact of Teaching Methods on Learning 05:55 Social Dynamics and Bullying in School 10:06 Finding Connection: Friendships and Interests 12:54 The Role of Predictability in Coping Strategies 18:30 The Importance of Inclusion in Education
Key Takeaways Maverik proudly identifies as autistic and AuDHD Being called a “slow learner” was deeply unfair – the teaching style was the problem, not him Maths felt impossible; languages clicked instantly Bullying and exclusion were daily realities True friendships formed over shared special interests (especially history) Planning games and routines were vital coping tools Moments of real inclusion were rare but life-changing Neuro-inclusive classrooms should actively connect kids with similar passions
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