The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Treating Couples: Integrative Behavioral Couple Therapy — Balancing Acceptance and Change Andrew Christensen, PhD

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Show Notes

Dr. Andrew Christensen, distinguished research professor of psychology at UCLA and co-developer of Integrative Behavioral Couple Therapy (IBCT), explains how IBCT balances acceptance and change in treating relationship distress. He walks clinicians through the assessment and feedback process and the DEEP formulation, describes the three core interventions—empathic joining, unified detachment, and practical problem-solving—and discusses treatment length, termination, and training resources. Published On: October 19, 2026 Duration: 44 mins 19 seconds

Learning ObjectivesAfter completing this educational activity, participants should be able to: · Describe the core principles of Integrative Behavioral Couple Therapy and explain how acceptance-focused and change-focused interventions are integrated in treating relationship distress. · Distinguish rule-governed change from contingency-shaped change and explain how in-session emotional experiences can facilitate more constructive couple interactions. · Identify the components of the IBCT DEEP formulation—differences, emotional sensitivities, external circumstances, and patterns of interaction—and describe their role in assessment and treatment planning. · Describe how empathic joining, unified detachment, and practical discussions are used to help couples address emotionally significant conflicts more constructively.

Topics Covered in This Interview· The distinctive challenges and advantages of conjoint couple therapy · How IBCT developed from traditional behavioral couple therapy · Integrating acceptance and change in relationship treatment · Why behavioral assignments and communication skills may not produce enduring change · How partners’ differences can be sources of both attraction and conflict · Rule-governed behavior versus contingency-shaped change · Facilitating spontaneous change through emotionally meaningful in-session interactions · How therapists decide when to emphasize acceptance or direct change · The IBCT assessment sequence: conjoint interview, individual sessions, and feedback · Assessing intimate partner violence, commitment, and competing relationships · The DEEP formulation: differences, emotional sensitivities, external circumstances, and patterns of interaction · Identifying recurring conflict cycles and developing a shared, less blame-focused understanding · Collaboratively setting the agenda for active treatment sessions · Empathic joining and the development of compassionate conversations · Unified detachment and examining patterns of conflict together · Practical discussions and preparing for challenging situations · Experiential learning versus direct instruction in couple therapy · Treatment duration, outcomes, termination, and follow-up sessions · IBCT training opportunities and the OurRelationship online program

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