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Episode 128: Dorota - The Woman In Red

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Show Notes

Dorota Kozlowska is a social engineer and penetration tester for Black Hills Information Security. She has her own podcast which can be found on Twitch and YouTube and recently presented at the Disobey conference in Finland. On this episode, she talks about how to get into social engineering as a job, some techniques for elicitation, what skills one needs to be a social engineer and the all-important sympathy vs. empathy.

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