ASAP Pathway: THE PODCAST

Ep.68, Crows Teaching Crows; The Empowered Sleep Apnea Project, Dr. Dave McCarty

ASAP Pathway: THE PODCAST

Show Notes

🎙️ PODCAST DESCRIPTION

In this episode of the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Dr. Stacy is joined by Dr. David McCarty for a deeply thoughtful conversation about how patients—children and adults—are often misunderstood, mislabeled, and mistreated when care focuses on symptoms instead of root cause. Drawing from neuroscience, clinical experience, and real patient stories, Dr. McCarty challenges the way we approach diagnoses such as ADHD, anxiety, sleep disorders, and behavioral dysregulation. He explains how airway function, tongue stability, neurological signaling, and chronic physiological stress can quietly shape how patients think, feel, sleep, and function—often for years before anyone connects the dots. This episode speaks to the exhausted patient, the frustrated provider, and the family searching for answers, highlighting how siloed care and rushed labels can leave people stuck in cycles of treatment that never fully address what’s happening beneath the surface. At its core, this conversation is a call to slow down, listen better, and approach patients as whole humans—across all ages—whose bodies are communicating long before pathology shows up on a chart.

LISTEN HERE for the Crows Teaching Crows Song! 🐦‍⬛🎶🔗

Dr. Dave is Co-Creator (with Ellen Stothard, PhD) of the Empowered Sleep Apnea Project! 🔗

Dr Dave McCarty on LinkedIn 🔗

FB Empowered Sleep Apnea 🔗

Dr. Dave as CMO of Rebis Health! 🔗

🎧 EPISODE CHAPTERS 📖

00:00 – Welcome to ASAP Pathway & Setting the Tone for the Conversation 00:16 – Introducing Dr. David McCarty & Why This Episode Matters 00:26 – The “Cartoon” That Explains Where Airway & Diagnosis Are Right Now 11:27 – Neurology, Anatomy & Why Symptoms Aren’t the Root Problem 13:22 – Development, Adaptation & What Happens When the Body Compensates 16:33 – The Risk of Diagnosis Without Understanding Physiology 19:05 – Patients Who Are Exhausted, Out of Answers & Out of Hope 19:33 – Where Medicine and Dentistry Must Work Together 27:49 – Tongue Function, Airway & Nervous System Regulation 38:10 – What Patients Are Communicating Through Their Symptoms 49:40 – Rethinking Labels, Behavior & Chronic Dysregulation 56:26 -- Building a Unified Language 01:02:30 – What Patients Can Do First: Slowing Down & Asking Better Questions 01:13:45 – Restoring Hope Through Whole-Patient Understanding 01:21:10 – Closing Reflections & Why This Conversation Matters

🌟 KEY LEARNINGS Symptoms are often adaptive responses, not primary disorders. Airway, tongue function, and neurology are tightly interconnected. Patients can compensate for years before breakdown occurs. Labels without physiology can delay meaningful healing. Chronic dysregulation affects sleep, cognition, mood, and behavior at any age. Medicine and dentistry must collaborate to see the full picture. Patients often feel unheard long before they feel “sick.” The future of sleep medicine includes a unified language around sleep apnea that all healthcare providers can share. Hope begins with better questions, not faster answers

This is the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Airway, Sleep, and Pediatric Pathway, where sleep and airway health take center stage, one breath at a time. VISIT: ASAP PathwayPlease subscribe, share, and tune in to future episodes of how we can help children live their best lives, one breath, and restful night's sleep at a time. Don't miss this exciting launch into a world of knowledge and transformation.Because Kids Can't Wait... CLICK HERE To Find an ASAP Pathway Provider CLICK HERE To Become an ASAP Pathway Provider CLICK HERE FOR ASAP Pathway IN-PERSON COURSES CLICK HERE To See If Your Child Is At Risk! ASAP FREE GIFT AND E NEWSLETTER SUBCRIBE AND SHARE AT OUR OTHER PLATFORMS BELOW

ASAP YouTube ▶️ 🔗 ASAP YouTube Music 🔗 ASAP on Spotify 🔗 ASAP IHeartRadio ❤️🔗 ASAP Amazon Music 🎵🔗 ASAP Apple Podcast 🍎🔗

ASAP Pathway MEMBERSHIP OPTIONS, LEARNING and COURSES BELOW ⬇️ 🙌

Join The Practice Breakfast Club! ☕️🔗

2026 ASAP Mini-Residency Pathway 🙌🔗

WANT TO BE A MEMBER

More from ASAP Pathway: THE PODCAST

Oct 12, 2026

What if forward head posture, chronic neck pain, morning headaches—or even the way someone sleeps—isn't simply a musculoskeletal problem? What if the body is compensating because it's trying to breathe? In this episode of the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Dr. Stacy sits down with chiropractor Dr. Kameron Smith to explore the connection between airway health, sleep, posture, pain and chiropractic care.Kameron's interest in airway began while performing Department of Transportation physicals and recognizing how many drivers were at risk for sleep apnea. Then it became personal. Despite being young, fit and not fitting the stereotypical sleep apnea patient, Kameron was experiencing fatigue, morning headaches and concerning nighttime oxygen readings. His own diagnosis changed the way he began looking at his patients—and eventually his own daughter.Together, Dr. Stacy and Kameron discuss how forward head posture, neck tension, mouth breathing and unusual sleep positions may sometimes be clues that the body is compensating to breathe. They also explore pediatric airway screening, craniofacial growth and development, and why simply correcting posture may miss the bigger question:Why is the body compensating in the first place? Most importantly, this conversation is a call for greater collaboration between dentists, chiropractors and other airway-focused providers. Because sometimes the posture isn't the problem. It's the clue.

Sep 28, 2026

What if some of the most powerful tools for healing are already inside your own body? In this episode of the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Dr. Stacy sits down with Dr. Matt Bayes, a primary care sports medicine physician, non-surgical orthopedist, and regenerative medicine doctor whose work focuses on orthobiologics—the use of a patient’s own cells to support healing and recovery. Dr. Bayes breaks down PRP (platelet-rich plasma), stem cells, bone marrow aspiration, adipose-derived cells, and ultrasound-guided regenerative procedures in language patients and healthcare providers can understand. He explains how platelets act as important messengers in the body’s healing process, how stem cells participate in tissue repair, and how these therapies may be used for certain ligament, tendon, cartilage, joint, and musculoskeletal injuries. But this conversation is also about knowing when regenerative medicine is—and isn’t—the right answer. Dr. Bayes and Dr. Stacy discuss the importance of diagnosis and case selection, including situations where surgery remains the appropriate treatment. The discussion also bridges medicine and dentistry as Dr. Stacy explores the growing role of regenerative approaches such as PRF in TMJ care and considers how her own experience with regenerative medicine is influencing the direction of her dental practice. And beneath all of it is a wonderfully simple message: Movement is medicine. Curiosity makes us better clinicians. Collaboration improves patient care. And sometimes the best way forward is to work with the healing capacity the body already possesses.

Sep 21, 2026

In this episode of the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Dr. Stacy sits down with Dr. Pedro Cuartas, founder of the Collaborative Airway Management Summit (CAMS) and Clinical Director of South Louisiana Dental Sleep Medicine, for a conversation about what may be one of the biggest missing pieces in airway healthcare: collaboration.

Sep 7, 2026

In this episode of the ASAP Pathway Podcast, Dr. Stacy sits down with dental sleep medicine expert Crystal May, Vice President of Dental Sleep Medicine at Happy Sleep, for a wide-ranging conversation about why sleep screening needs to become a routine part of healthcare—and why dentistry may be one of the best places to start.

Aug 31, 2026

Season Six of the ASAP Pathway Podcast starts with the three ASAP Pathway co-founders together at the table: Drs. Stacy, Tracey, and Michelle—and this one gets personal. What actually happens to women’s sleep when hormones begin changing? Why does obstructive sleep apnea become much more prevalent in women around midlife? Why can women feel exhausted, foggy, anxious, achy, restless and simply say, “I don’t feel like myself anymore”—yet still have a sleep study that doesn’t look particularly alarming? And what do estrogen, progesterone, cortisol, jaw pain, clenching, TMD, airway anatomy and even heart health have to do with one another? The founders dive into the changing conversation around perimenopause and menopause, including why traditional sleep apnea screening may fail to identify many women. They discuss the limitations of relying only on oxygen desaturations and AHI, and explain RERAs—respiratory effort-related arousals—events that may repeatedly fragment sleep without necessarily meeting the traditional definition of apnea.

See all episodes →