LEVELS – A Whole New Level

#317 - What It Takes to Build Medical AI Doctors Will Trust | Dr. Suchi Saria & Mike Haney

LEVELS – A Whole New Level

Show Notes

Medical AI is full of impressive models that work on retrospective datasets. The much harder problem is turning one into a tool that can operate continuously inside a hospital, earn clinicians’ trust, fit into an overloaded workflow, stay reliable across different health systems, and ultimately improve patient outcomes. Mike Haney talks with Johns Hopkins researcher and Bayesian Health founder Dr. Suchi Saria about the decade-long journey from an academic sepsis-prediction algorithm to AI that clinicians are using in hospitals today. Her experience is a reality check on what it actually takes to make medical AI useful, and an argument for aiming higher than documentation and billing: toward systems that continuously watch patients, catch deterioration earlier, and help prevent avoidable harm.

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What We Cover: Why sepsis fits continuous AI monitoring How causal reasoning separates signal from a noisy alert Why real-time access to the full record matters When a working algorithm still failed to get attention How adoption and human-machine teaming became engineering problems What happened when the system went live How the same infrastructure extends beyond sepsis Why healthcare is too conservative about medical AI

🎙️ About the Guest: Dr. Suchi Saria is the John C. Malone Associate Professor at Johns Hopkins University, where she directs the Machine Learning and Healthcare Lab, and is the founder and CEO of Bayesian Health. Her work focuses on building and deploying machine-learning systems that use real-world clinical data to improve diagnosis, treatment, and patient safety.

📍What Dr. Suchi Saria & Mike Haney discussed: 04:30 - Why the real AI risk is what it is allowed to do 08:32 - Why sepsis is a race against organ failure 11:57 - From checklists to reading the full medical record 16:30 - How causal reasoning finds a patient’s baseline 18:50 - Using uncertainty to avoid another noisy alert 22:11 - Why an hour-late warning is already too late 25:06 - Reading Epic in real time without slowing it down 32:35 - A working algorithm still couldn’t get clinicians’ attention 35:53 - What happened when the system went live 45:32 - Human-machine teaming, and who still makes the call 54:17 - The same infrastructure, beyond sepsis 58:35 - Why billing and coding is too small a target

🔗 Helpful Links: Suchi Saria — Johns Hopkins Research, publications, and academic background. Bayesian Health: Saria’s company commercializing real-time clinical AI. TREWScore — Science Translational Medicine (2015): The original real-time early warning model for septic shock. TREWS patient outcomes — Nature Medicine (2022): Prospective multisite evaluation after deploying the sepsis warning system in clinical care. TREWS clinician adoption — Nature Medicine (2022): Study of provider adoption and effects on sepsis treatment timing. Human-machine teaming — npj Digital Medicine (2022): Clinician interviews on what made the deployed AI system trustworthy and usable. Bayesian Health Sepsis Flagging Device — FDA (2026): FDA 510(k) clearance for the sepsis prediction software discussed in the episode.

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