Show Notes
Anna Lembke, MD, author of the New York Times bestseller Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence, joins Robb and Josh for a discussion about the perils and promise of AI. As a psychiatrist and Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic at Stanford University, Dr. Lembke shares critical insights into the power and nature of behavioral addiction, and how technology and digital media are impacting the dopamine systems in our brains. Drawing from her experience with patients, she shares the concept of radical honesty—a cornerstone of addiction recovery. Together, they explore how radically honest AI could pose less of a threat and help establish healthier boundaries around technology use.
In this episode, we mention:
Dr. Anna Lemble’s book “Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence”: https://www.amazon.com/Dopamine-Nation-Finding-Balance-Indulgence/dp/152474672X The forthcoming revised and updated 2nd edition of Robb Willson and Josh Tyson’s bestselling book, “Age of Invisible Machines: A Practical Guide to Creating a Hyperautomated Ecosystem of Intelligent Digital Workers”: https://www.amazon.com/Age-Invisible-Machines-Orchestrating-Organizations/dp/1394321554 Dr. Anna Lembke’s “The Official Dopamine Nation Workbook: A Practical Guide to Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence”: https://www.amazon.com/Official-Dopamine-Nation-Workbook-Indulgence/dp/0593476212?sr=1-1 Pew Research Center survey of U.S. teens ages 13 to 17 conducted Sept. 18-Oct.10, 2024: "Teens, Social Media, and Technology 2024": https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2024/12/12/teens-social-media-and-technology-2024/
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