Technovation with Peter High (CIO, CTO, CDO, CXO Interviews)

Tines Co-Founder Thomas Kinsella on Governing the Rise of Wild Code

Technovation with Peter High (CIO, CTO, CDO, CXO Interviews)

Show Notes

When AI makes everyone a software builder, who governs what gets built?

In this episode of Technovation, Peter High speaks with Thomas Kinsella, Co-Founder and COO of Tines, about the rise of “wild code”: invisible and ungoverned agents, automations, scripts, and workflows spreading across the enterprise. Kinsella explores how CIOs can encourage AI experimentation while creating the visibility, security, and controls required at scale.

Key topics include:

How “wild code” is changing enterprise AI governance

Why governed AI needs a productive “paved path”

When deterministic automation beats AI agents

Where human judgment belongs in intelligent workflows

How workflows can evolve based on real-world decisions

This episode is presented by ElevenLabs — Bringing technology to life. Learn more at elevenlabs.io

This episode is also presented by Retool — Build internal software better, with AI. Learn more at retool.com

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