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AI isn’t just changing how we work — it’s redefining who truly belongs in their craft.
In this episode of the AI Agents Podcast, host Demetri Panici sits down with Ray Jang, Founder & CEO of Atria, to discuss how AI is reshaping creative work, careers, and the future of modern advertising.
From Ray’s journey leaving TikTok to surviving a near-death startup pivot, to building a creative intelligence platform used by brands and agencies alike, this conversation dives deep into:
➡️ How AI is lowering the floor but raising the ceiling
➡️ Why the “middle” of many careers is disappearing
➡️ The future of creative work, advertising, and AI agents
➡️ What it really takes to build and adapt in an AI-first world
Whether you’re a founder, marketer, creative, or builder, this episode will challenge how you think about skills, leverage, and long-term relevance.
👉 Are you mastering your craft — or just getting by?
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