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The Superpowers of Longevity

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Show Notes

Think performance peaks when you're "young"? Think again. Research shows you can unlock a surprising set of superpowers as you age.

In this episode of Flow Radio, peak performance expert Steven Kotler sits down with Chip Conley to explore how older minds excel at pattern recognition, complex problem-solving, and emotional intelligence. You'll learn why age brings unique advantages in both business and life.

Conley shares insights from his time as Airbnb's Head of Global Hospitality, where they called him their "modern elder." Today, he runs the Modern Elder Academy, teaching people how to thrive in midlife and beyond.

Tune in to discover why your best years might still be ahead—and how to make the most of them.

In This Episode:

00:00 The Birth of a Modern Elder

07:52 The Hidden Advantages of Aging Brains

13:35 The Midlife Crisis Myth

18:48 Why We Need Midlife Wisdom Schools

23:55 Becoming a Beginner Again

29:15 Flow States and Longevity32:45 Breaking Down Age Apartheid

35:22 The Longevity Paradox36:51 Beyond Lifespan: Intro to Zest Span

About The Guest:

Successful hospitality entrepreneur and bestselling author Chip Conley is on a mission to reframe our relationship with aging. As the founder of MEA, the world's first midlife wisdom school with regenerative communities, Conley is disrupting both the idea of higher education and senior living. He has both a BA and MBA from Stanford University and an Honorary PhD in Psychology from Saybrook University. He’s been a TED speaker at the prestigious annual conference multiple times.

Episode Resources:

Website: https://chipconley.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chipconleysf/

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Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/chipconley/

Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/chip.conley.3/‍

Modern Elder Academy: https://www.meawisdom.com/

Chip’s Books: https://chipconley.com/my-books/

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