
Show Notes
Heather and Cody Baker join Eli Harwood to talk about pregnancy and infant loss, grieving differently as partners, and parenting through grief. Drawing on their experience of losing their daughter Blakely, they share how they learned to be with each other in their pain, make room for grief and joy, and carry their daughter’s memory forward. They also discuss practical ways friends and family can help, from caring for surviving children to remembering important dates and repairing hurtful moments. In this conversation The Bakers’ experience of infertility, miscarriage, and stillbirth, and the early days of grief. How their different ways of coping affected their relationship, and what helped them reconnect. Making room for shared sorrow, laughter, intimacy, and ordinary family life. Moving forward with their daughter’s memory as part of their family story. Supporting surviving children while parents are grieving. Offering presence, remembrance, practical help, and repair as a friend or family member.
These are the speakers’ experiences and reflections, rather than a fixed sequence everyone follows through grief. Mentioned resources Us After Loss: A Compassionate Path to Healing, Holding On, and Doing Hard Things Together — Heather and Cody Baker
Connect with the guests Us After Loss — the website shared in the conversation
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