CLAREMONT: The Trial

S2E91: The Closing Statements: “If the DNA Evidence isn’t Proven, the Whole Case Falls Over”

CLAREMONT: The Trial

Show Notes

In this episode, the Claremont in Conversation podcast team are joined by leading Perth criminal QC Tom Percy, who weighs in on the defence case, or lack of, and the seemingly new information which came out in the closing statements. In relation to the defence’s case, Tom Percy said, “You find your answer in the prosecution case, not necessarily in your own case.” During his second day of closings, Paul Yovich focussed on the PathWest practises, cleaning regimes and the 10 proven contamination events. Including one event, in which the DNA from a victim of a completely different case was found on a sample from one of the Claremont victims - a branch which was found on top of Jane Rimmer’s body. It’s led the team to wonder if the defence has placed enough doubt into the case. Another doubt the defence aimed to raise was also about the injuries on Ciara Glennon, namely the broken left thumbnail which the prosecution says was when Ciara scratched her attacker, helping produce the male DNA profile which they say is Bradley Edwards. Paul Yovich produced several other scenarios in relation to how her thumb nail was damaged. But with this, and other topics, Justice Hall was ready to clarify with questions, which included a suggestion that the defence had evidence Bradley Edwards was with a girlfriend the night Ciara Glennon disappeared. The court had previously been told Mr Edwards was supposed to travel down to Dawesville on March 14 to stay with friends, but didn’t arrive until late the next morning. The people he was supposed to stay with gave evidence, saying he told them he was trying to reconcile with his first wife, who said during her time on the stand that a reconciliation was never attempted. Justice Hall told Paul Yovich he would be asking some questions about that when court resumes on Monday. Join Natalie Bonjolo, Tim Clarke, Alison Fan and Tom Percy QC as they discuss day 91 of the Claremont Serial Killings Trial. If you have any questions for the Claremont in Conversation podcast team, send them in to [email protected] The West Australian has also released a two-part video series, as Tim Clarke takes you through the areas which are key to the trial, from Claremont, where the women went missing, to Hollywood hospital and to the sites were Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon’s bodies were found. To watch those videos, head to: Part 1: https://thewest.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-tim-clarke-takes-you-on-a-visual-tour-of-claremont-ng-b881516606z Part 2: https://thewest.com.au/news/claremont-serial-killings/claremont-serial-killings-trial-tim-clarke-takes-you-to-wellard-and-eglington-ng-b881517153z See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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