
TAKEAWAY - AI Appetite Is Easy, Digestion Is Hard with Diana Wu David
Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data PodcastShow Notes
This is the takeaway episode with Diana Wu David, Director of Futures at ServiceNow where we discuss AI adoption, the metrics and how far fewer organizations have figured out what to do with AI once it's inside the building. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mohammed Aaser, former chief data officer at McKinsey and former chief data strategy officer at Domo, recently visited Juan and shared his framework on talent in the AI era. It was incredibly insightful and we asked if he could come back to the podcast (after 5 years!) His argument is that the potential of AI will be unlocked by humans because humans understand the problems, and are driven/motivated to solve the problems. In this episode, Mohammed lays out a framework for talent in the AI era. Automation is already taking over the known, repeatable work. What remains is the unknown, and that takes people who keep learning and who take initiative. The framework plots people on two dimensions, learning and drive. You have Doers, Philosophers, Commanders, Hackers, Strategist, Innovators, Game changers and more. Topics discussed Automation and the innovation engine The known versus the unknown Two dimensions of talent The talent quadrants The multiplier effect Commanders and scaling Environments that don’t build initiative Rarity of high-potential people Investing in human potential The human mind as the limit Critical thinking through discomfort See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This is the takeaway episode with Mohammed Aaser, former chief data officer at McKinsey and former chief data strategy officer at Domo. He recently visited Juan and shared his framework on talent in the AI era. It was incredibly insightful and we asked if he could come back to the podcast (after 5 years!) His argument is that the potential of AI will be unlocked by humans because humans understand the problems, and are driven/motivated to solve the problems. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is the takeaway episode with Dora Boussias, executive advisor and former data executive. We unpack the question "How do leaders preserve executive trust and credibility?" Her answer: protect your judgement. In this episode, Dora presents the trust equation that most leaders grew up with: expertise + track record + judgment. Don't miss it! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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