
Recalling The Early Pat The Bunny / Johnny Hobo Days (part 3) w/ Brook Pridemore #43
Back On The GrindShow Notes
For the final installment of our Johnny Hobo Q&A, Brook Pridemore joins Pepe to offer some more perspectives on the questions listeners sent in. They also discuss some of the general happenings of the folk punk scene from the mid to late 2000's. Enjoy! (There will be some additional Pat The Bunny questions answered by Pepe on our Patreon feed)
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HIGHLIGHTS: Brook's first show with Johnny Hobo/Pat The Bunny What was the average Johnny hobo show like at the time? Was it a solid consistent line up or mostly pat showing up with a guitar? What was the farthest pat toured during that period? Some differences between the Pan-It-X crew & the DIY Bandits crew The role of "place" & how it influences music & scenes How much did the Johnny Hobo songs actually reflect Pat's real life at the time & how much was just him singing in character? Were things like hitchhiking & riding freight trains stuff Pat actually did? Thoughts on the tinder Box in Brattleboro VT. Brook taking people to Harmony Parking Lot How do you all feel about being so popular with train hoppers & homeless kids, particularly those who take inspiration from Pat's early nihilistic, self-destructive lyrics to be nihilistic and self-destructive themselves? Does an artist have a responsibility to their listeners. Eg glorifying drugs, suicide, violence, crime etc or is the first responsibility to the art itself? How do you feel about fans putting people like Pat & Benjamin Tod on pedestals? Seemingly holding them solely responsible for their recoveries? "These days folk-punk is suffering because the artists aren't". It seems like the music was better when the people involved were "worse". Can you speak to that idea? Can I become rich & pay off my student loans with my old CDs. Asking for a friend :) + What’s that most yall have seen these albums go for? Did he ever give a reason for the disbanding of Johnny Hobo? If so what was it?
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