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#031 - Project 2025 (and why you should really, really care about it)

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Show Notes

Project 2025 has (finally) become an enormous national news story. But while its goals (which go after everything from contraception to the Department of Education) have rightly been in the spotlight, it's also important to understand that, far from being the fantasy wish list of a group of fringe conservatives, it is in fact a project of a major think tank, decades in the making. It comes out of the Heritage Foundation, an organization founded by anti-democratic far-right Christian nationalist Paul Weyrich and currently run by the like-minded Kevin Roberts...whose upcoming book has a forward by JD Vance. This week, John and Kelly unpack a little bit about why you should take anything coming out of the Heritage Foundation very seriously.

LINKS! P2025 Explained: Project 2025: The myths and the facts Democrats Are Sounding the Alarm About Project 2025. What’s in It? What is Project 2025? What to know about the conservative blueprint for a second Trump administration Project 2025: A wish list for a Trump presidency, explained Other Resources: Trump allies prepare to infuse ‘Christian nationalism’ in second administration Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved J.D. Vance has made it impossible for Trump to run away from Project 2025 Liz Theoharis and Shailly Gupta Barnes - Project 2025: The Christian Nationalist Vision to be Imposed on America

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