DNA Today: A Genetics Podcast

#412 How Prenatal cfDNA Can Uncover Undiagnosed Maternal Cancer

DNA Today: A Genetics Podcast

Show Notes

Prenatal cell-free DNA screening is designed to assess a pregnancy for chromosome conditions; but in rare cases, it can reveal something entirely unexpected about the pregnant patient’s own health. In this episode, Kira Dineen is joined in-person by Dr. Diana Bianchi to explore how unusual or non-reportable cfDNA screening results can sometimes be a signal of an undiagnosed maternal cancer. Dr. Bianchi shares findings from the NIH’s ongoing IDENTIFY study, which is investigating why these unexpected cfDNA patterns occur, how clinicians can distinguish potential malignancy from other explanations, and what should happen next when a prenatal screening result raises concern about maternal cancer. We recorded this episode in person at AGBT Precision Health, one of our favorite conferences of the year. The conference wrapped this past Wednesday and brought together leaders across genomics, precision medicine, research, and clinical care in an intimate setting that makes it easy to connect, learn, and have thoughtful conversations. The conference is also hosted at a beautiful resort in the San Diego area, which makes the experience especially memorable. We highly recommend attending next year’s AGBT Precision Health meeting, taking place September 13–15, 2027, at the same gorgeous location. We already put it on our calendars!

In This Episode, We Discuss:

What “non-reportable” or “uninterpretable” cfDNA results actually mean How unusual cfDNA results differ from typical test failures Determining whether an unexpected cfDNA signal originates from the fetus, placenta, or pregnant patient Maternal causes of discordant cfDNA results, including fibroids, clonal hematopoiesis, a demised twin, and malignancy Why tumors can release DNA into the bloodstream that is detected during prenatal screening Why Dr. Bianchi and her colleagues launched the prospective IDENTIFY study in 2019 What participants undergo when they travel to the NIH Clinical Center for evaluation Results from the first 107 IDENTIFY participants, including the 52 participants diagnosed with cancer Why lymphoma is frequently identified through these unusual cfDNA patterns Chromosomal patterns that are particularly suspicious for malignancy Why gains and losses involving three or more chromosomes can be an important warning sign Why symptoms, physical examinations, and routine bloodwork may not reliably identify patients with occult cancer The role of rapid whole-body MRI in evaluating patients for malignancy Approaches clinicians can consider when whole-body MRI is not readily available Diagnosing and treating cancer during pregnancy What researchers have learned from participants whose evaluation does not identify cancer How the IDENTIFY study has expanded since its original published cohort How laboratories should report cfDNA patterns that may suggest maternal malignancy The need for professional society guidelines for clinicians receiving these unusual results What genetic counselors, OB/GYNs, and maternal-fetal medicine specialists should do when they receive a concerning non-reportable NIPS result

About Dr. Diana Bianchi Diana W. Bianchi, MD, is a physician-scientist and a pioneer in noninvasive prenatal genetic testing and fetal cell microchimerism research. She previously served as Director of the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development at the National Institutes of Health and was a senior investigator in the Center for Precision Health Research at the National Human Genome Research Institute. Her research has helped define how prenatal cell-free DNA sequencing can unexpectedly identify genomic patterns associated with maternal malignancy. In 2019, Dr. Bianchi and colleagues launched the IDENTIFY Study — Incidental Detection of Maternal Neoplasia Through Non-Invasive Cell-Free DNA Analysis — to investigate the biological causes of unusual or non-reportable prenatal cfDNA results and develop evidence-based approac

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