
Show Notes
Take 2 Podcast Thursday, Sept. 25, 2025 Guests: Heidi Hatch, Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Sen. Daniel McCay
Redistricting New Maps
Public comment period runs for 10 days, through Oct. 5
Feedback can be submitted at redistricting.utah.gov
Special session scheduled for Oct. 6 to vote on the new map
Final maps will be submitted to the courts for approval
Great Salt Lake Water Woes
Gov. Spencer Cox launches GSL 2034, a public-private charter urging all Utahns to help restore the lake
Comes with a $200 million pledge, half already committed by Ducks Unlimited over 10 years
New philanthropic coalition Great Salt Lake Rising aims to raise an additional $100 million within a year, led by Josh Romney
Cox wants lake elevation back to 4,198 feet by the 2034 Winter Olympics (currently at 4,191 feet)
Charlie Kirk Monument at UVU
Petition supporting memorial: 20,000 signatures
Petition opposing memorial: 13,000 signatures
UVU announced creation of a Memorial Committee, co-chaired by Scott M. Smith (UVU Board of Trustees, Qualtrics co-founder) and Amanda Covington (Utah Board of Higher Education chair)
Committee will include students, political leaders, and other stakeholders
USU Turning Point Event – Tuesday, Sept. 30
Featured guests: Gov. Spencer Cox, Sen. Mike Lee, Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz
Some surprise at Cox’s participation after past criticism from Charlie Kirk in 2022
Still unclear if the format will be a panel or Q&A
Sutherland Institute Transition Rick Larsen to step down as CEO on Jan. 1, 2026, and become president emeritus
One Week Out from Possible Government Shutdown
Federal government faces shutdown if Congress fails to pass spending bill by Oct. 1
Republicans and Democrats remain divided, particularly over extending enhanced ACA premium subsidies
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Host: Heidi Hatch