The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

Anthropic’s $2tn Fever Dream, Firmus Tanks AI Globally, Maas' Week from Hell and is Software Dead?

The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

Show Notes

Adam and Adir unpack the latest fallout from Australia’s surcharge ban, the rise of PayID and PayTo, Victoria’s new auction rules and a software developer recreating products like Photoshop with AI.

Then they turn to the growing cracks in the AI boom: the Firmus fallout spreading through CoreWeave and other data-centre names, MAAS Group’s brutal sell-off and aggressive buybacks, and Anthropic’s extraordinary growth, and whether a potential $2 trillion valuation can possibly be justified.

01:58 - Ticket Bots and Radiohead

07:15 - Springvale, Retail and PayID

14:12 - The Surcharge Ban

29:17 - Europe’s Biggest Companies Quiz

38:09 - AI Clones Software

44:31 - Property Density and Victoria’s New Auction Rules

53:25 - Firmus, MAAS, Anthropic and The AI Bubble

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