
Raising Kids in a Pandemic (with Mike Birbiglia, Emily Oster & Jamel Holmes)
You and Me Both with Hillary ClintonShow Notes
How can children thrive during a pandemic? What has this time taught us about the role of education in kids’ lives? And are you a horrible parent, teacher, or caregiver if, at some point in the last year, you were ready to throw in the towel?
This week, Hillary talks to Jamel Holmes, a sixth grade special education teacher in the Bronx who has seen up close how this pandemic is impacting students in one of the poorest congressional districts in the country. She also speaks with economist Emily Oster about what the data tells us about balancing safety, academic achievement, and kids’ wellbeing. Lastly, she sits down with comedian Mike Birbiglia, whose book The New One chronicles his bumpy journey from knowing he should never have kids to becoming a devoted dad.
Jamel Holmes teaches at the East Bronx Academy for the Future. He will graduate this May from Lehman College, CUNY, with a Master of Science as School Building Leader. You can support his work to provide students with the resources they need to learn and thrive at donorschoose.org/classroom/mr-jholmes.
Emily Oster is an economics professor at Brown University known for her writing on parenthood and early childhood. She has published two bestselling parenting books, Expecting Better and Cribsheet, and is releasing her third book, The Family Firm, this August. She also runs a newsletter about evidence-based pregnancy and parenting called ParentData.
Mike Mirbiglia is a comedian and bestselling author whose most recent solo shows, The New One, Thank God for Jokes, and My Girlfriend’s Boyfriend are streaming on Netflix. Mike also wrote, directed, and starred in the films Sleepwalk with Me and Don’t Think Twice. He has written two bestselling books, Sleepwalk with Me and The New One, and currently hosts the podcast “Mike Birbiglia’s Working It Out.”
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More from You and Me Both with Hillary Clinton
For her season finale, Hillary sits down with her husband, the 42nd president of the United States, to continue a wide-ranging conversation they’ve been having together for over 50 years. From their home in Chappaqua, New York, amid the current war in the Middle East, they recall the eight years of work Bill did during his presidency to find a road to peace for the Israeli and Palestinian people. They tackle other pressing subjects like immigration, climate change, and the urgent need for funding the war in Ukraine. And they also look for hope wherever they can find it—including Northern Ireland and Albania, and, closer to home, through celebrating the holiday season and reflecting on the bond they continue to share with one another after all their years together.
Hillary is traveling, and will be back next week with a new episode. In the meantime, we’re bringing back one of her favorites..
The overturning of Roe v. Wade in June of 2022 dealt a severe blow to women’s health care in the United States. Today, nearly half of states in the country ban or severely restrict abortion care. The ripple effects reach far wider: hospitals are shutting maternity wards, and OB-GYNs are leaving states that don’t allow them to provide essential care to their patients.
This week, we bring you the first ever live recording of You and Me Both before a sold-out audience at Symphony Space in New York City. Hillary was joined by singer, actor, and three time Tony Award winner Patti LuPone, while writer and comedian Amber Ruffin served as MC.
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