
Ep 1425 | Jase’s Bizarre Michael Jackson Encounter Leaves Matthew West Speechless
Unashamed with the Robertson FamilyShow Notes
Matthew West looks back on the career advice that told him to be more of a “rock star,” a mold he knew he didn’t want to fit. He recounts touring with Willie Robertson, quickly realizing who the real celebrity was, and finding humor in some deeply humbling moments along the way. Matthew opens up to Jase, Al, and Zach about his brother’s long battle with addiction, the prayers that seem to go unanswered, and why his song and devotional book Don’t Stop Praying grew out of his own need for a deeper prayer life. The guys dig into surrender, grace, and Matthew’s new Jesus Is King album, reflecting on what it means to draw near to God instead of trying to control everything yourself.
In this episode: Romans 8:26-27; James 4:8
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Chapters
00:00 Matthew West Joins Unashamed
04:08 Jase’s Michael Jackson Story
08:02 Jase Pitches “Eager Sunday”
12:26 Matthew West Wins Over a Crowd
17:41 Why I Reject the “Rock Star” Image
24:16 Willie Humbles Matthew
28:38 Matthew’s Songwriting Career
36:10 When Prayer Goes Unanswered
42:17 How Prayer Changed Jase’s Life
47:03 Matthew West on “Jesus Is King”
55:23 Jase Pitches a Song
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