The Regenerative Agroforestry Podcast

#42 Stories and facts: how to convince decision makers about the importance of agroforestry

The Regenerative Agroforestry Podcast

Show Notes

Today I have the pleasure of welcoming Patrick Worms on the show. He is a policy advisor for World Agroforestry and the ex-president of the European Agroforestry Federation. We discuss together agroforestry from a policy perspective to understand how we convince decision makers and what type of funding is needed to scale agroforestry. Although much of the conversation is focused on Europe, Patrick gives some insights that will be of great interest to anyone who wants to convince key players of the opportunity of agroforestry. Patrick is an amazing speaker and you will find this interview to be not only highly informative but also entertaining and full of punchlines. TABLE OF CONTENTS 01:49 Personal background 04:52 The appeal of agroforestry 06:23 Work at ICRAF 08:00 The power of stories 11:22 Missions of EURAF 18:00 Perception of agroforestry in policy circles 20:44 What is preventing a scaling of agroforestry? 23:37 What is blocking agroforestry within EU member states? 27:55 Agroforestry in the African context 34:50 Successful examples from East Asia 41:54 Funding agroforestry 46:04 What role for private funding? 52:36 Is the case for agroforestry clear and properly demonstrated? • RESOURCES https://euraf.isa.utl.pt/welcome https://www.worldagroforestry.org/ • GET IN TOUCH www.regenerativeagroforestry.org • SUPPORT US www.gumroad.com/regenagroforestry • FOLLOW US on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn and Instagram • FUNDING FOR EUROPEAN PROJECTS https://explore.ecosia.org/regenerative-agriculture Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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