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AI in the SOC: Interview with Hayden Covington and Ethan Robish from the BHIS SOC | Episode 40

AI Security Ops

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AI in the SOC: Interview with Hayden Covington and Ethan Robish from the BHIS SOC | Episode 40 In this episode of BHIS Presents: AI Security Ops, we sit down with Hayden Covington and Ethan Robish from the BHIS Security Operations Center (SOC) to explore how AI is actually being used in modern defensive operations. From foundational machine learning techniques like statistical baselining and clustering to large language models assisting with alert triage and reporting, we dig into what works, what doesn’t, and what SOC teams should realistically expect from AI today. We break down: - How AI helps reduce alert fatigue and improve triage - Practical automation inside a real-world SOC - The difference between traditional ML approaches and LLM-powered workflows - Foundational techniques like K-means, anomaly detection, and behavioral baselining - Using LLMs for enrichment, investigation, and report drafting - Where AI struggles: hallucinations, inconsistency, and edge cases - Risks around over-trusting AI in security operations - How to responsibly integrate AI into analyst workflows This episode is grounded in real operational experience—not vendor demos. If you’re running a SOC, building AI tooling, or just trying to separate hype from reality, this conversation will help you think clearly about augmentation vs. automation in defensive security.

(00:00) - Intro & Guest Introductions

(04:44) - Alert Triage & SOC Pain Points

(06:04) - Automation Inside the SOC

(09:59) - “Boring AI”: Clustering, Baselining & Statistics

(17:06) - AI-Assisted Reporting & Client Communication

(18:34) - Limitations, Edge Cases & Model Risk

(22:56) - Hallucinations & Inconsistent Outputs

(25:04) - AI Demos vs. Real-World Security Work

(28:35) - Final Thoughts & Closing

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Creators & Guests

Hayden Covington - Guest

Ethan Robish - Guest

Bronwen Aker - Host

Derek Banks - Host

Brian Fehrman - Host

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